Non-Riveted overalls (1850's-1900)

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   Sansome - Trademark law is crazy in the US. I know enough about it to be dangerous and I don't practice in that area of law at all, but from what I recall from law school that trademark would have been protected in all 50 states.
The problem is that trademarks aren't self-enforcing, meaning someone can use it in another state for the exact same product without repercussion unless you sue them and stop them. 

At that time, I would bet there was plenty of inadvertent trademark overlap for common names, initials, and words, but the lack of real competition from an out of state competitor meant no one ever enforced the trademarks outside of their usual sales territory.

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rayw44 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List whiskered Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Location: The Burgh Status: Offline Points: 1968	Post Options Post Reply Quote rayw44 Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 10:39am
	Sansome - Trademark law is crazy in the US. I know enough about it to be dangerous and I don't practice in that area of law at all, but from what I recall from law school that trademark would have been protected in all 50 states. The problem is that trademarks aren't self-enforcing, meaning someone can use it in another state for the exact same product without repercussion unless you sue them and stop them. At that time, I would bet there was plenty of inadvertent trademark overlap for common names, initials, and words, but the lack of real competition from an out of state competitor meant no one ever enforced the trademarks outside of their usual sales territory.

Sansome Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List ADMIN Joined: 20 Jan 2012 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 13244	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sansome Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 2:51pm
	Thanks ray for that explanation of the law- now I wonder if that would include territories too?

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	late 1880's early 90's check jacket, this one's from- the 2 miners collection we found a few years back. It's hard to see, this one's a double pleated- 1 pocket. In 2015- we found a brown check jacket, with no pleats. cj2 by bottleswest, on Flickr cj1 by bottleswest, on Flickr My oldest daughter- wearing it.

Sansome Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List ADMIN Joined: 20 Jan 2012 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 13244	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sansome Report Post Thanks(8) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Apr 2020 at 10:14pm
	botr by bottleswest, on Flickr Here is the 1882-83 Boss of the Road pants we found 2 months ago, BOTR is on bottom- late 1870's Sach's and Heller on top, The pant on top is listed as- Boss of the road in Jeans of the old west. Both pants are dart stitched, on the pocket corners. botr1 by bottleswest, on Flickr botr2 by bottleswest, on Flickr So far- every 1860's and 70's pant we have come across, has only one design stitch on the front pockets- when you get into the 80's, double design stitches is what you see above ^^^^ botr6 by bottleswest, on Flickr botr4 by bottleswest, on Flickr One piece fly on the Boss of the Road pants on bottom- we should have known by the 2 piece fly on top, we should have known that it wasn't BOTR. botr5 by bottleswest, on Flickr close up of the 2 piece fly botr3 by bottleswest, on Flickr Hand sewn on the left- Machine sewn on the right. The dedicated Reese Button hole machine came out in 1882 We assume that the Standard shirt factory of the NB bros, Would be using this button hole machine in 1882? botr9 by bottleswest, on Flickr botr11 by bottleswest, on Flickr botr14 by bottleswest, on Flickr NB Trademark first patch/Label botr10 by bottleswest, on Flickr First label- WE found this pant in the first workings of this mine we were in- We knew there had to be pants somewhere- 3 months and 6 trips later we found them. This dude was tall for this time- tag size 36w 35L