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SDA,
I have a couple of pairs of Tender jeans, 1 woad dyed ( type 132 ),  one not ( 133 ). Very pleased with both of them. The quality of the denim and the production details are second to none. The only bugbear is the sizing . Both are labelled size 4 yet the 132 woads are approx 35" in the waist( come pre-shrunk as part of woad dyeing process ) and the 133s are approx 33". I have tried on the actual woad dyed 133s shown here; http://www.tenderstores.com/type-133-woad-hand-dyed-denim-straight-cut-trews/
and they too are 33".
To be honest the 132s are too big for me in the waist, but as they are a roomy,  relatively wide legged cut I think they look ok hiked up with a belt, and make a nice change of silhouette.
The 133s are about the best jeans I have - it's that denimbro conundrum; something is so great you want to wear it all the time ( and of course things are made to be properly worn ), but the more you wear 'em the sooner they get retired.
From my experience I can definitely recommend Tender jeans but get confirmation of the sizing first!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote slowdownarthur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2013 at 1:25pm
sevensigns, 
thanks. Its great to hear you like Tender so much. Those 133s look beautiful. I like the shorter leg length and the cut which , I think, looks less bulky than the 132s. I'd be very interested to see some pics if you feel like posting. Did you buy direct from the Tender store?

Isn't sizing a nightmare? Thanks for the heads up, valuable info and probably explains the anomalies in the superdenim measurements ( the size 5 'W36' measure 34").
I need/prefer a 34" thats generous and closer to 35". I also think that works with a roomier fit like the 132s and 133s. 
 I'll get measurements of the pair I eventually go for. Just got to sell a couple of pairs from my collection first, need to make some room!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sevensigns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 8:43am
SDA,
I bought the 132 woads from Superdenim ( always had good service from SD ) and the 133s from Tenderstores, again service was 1st class. I may be wrong, and William ( Kroll ) may have other pairs lurking somewhere, but I think the 133s ( with the phone pocket on the front ) are one-offs that may not have gone into full production ( yet?? ). If I were you I would just ask William, he usually responds to questions v quickly. From memory, although I didn't measure them, the woad 133s on Tenderstores are definitely on the snug side of a 34" waist.
Both types are a roomy cut but the 133s, as the Tstores measurements suggest, are slightly more fitted - but still not Ramones stylee.
One of the reasons I really like the 133s is they have all the typical Tender details and beatifull denim without the usual Tender leg length - the double roll turn up isn't everyone's cup of tea. In fact, I cut about an inch off mine ( which by the time you've put a proper hem in is more like 2" ) and then hand chain stitched them which, to be honest, was a bit of a ball-ache but it saved me £15.
As to pics, probably not in the true Denimbro spirit, and I know selfie is the OED word of the year for 2013, but for an old dog like me it may be too new a trick.
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sevensigns,
Thanks again for talking this through. I will try Superdenim (I've always found them very helpful too) and also contact William. You've got me thinking about those 133s but that pair sound too snug for me. I prefer the leg length on them and like the look of the cut. Hemming them yourself must have been tough with denim that heavy!
I quite understand your decision regards posting selfies. I'm an old dog meself and too long in the tooth to want to see my mug on t'internet.
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SDA, you're right! I don't like using a thimble and my finger was bleeding by halfway  thru leg #2
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I really want Tender to produce something I want to buy. I love that the company seems to be a small community of artisans who try to do nearly everything in-house or very local to themselves. It's just hard for me to get with the style of the garments. Every time I look at the SuFu thread, I think "if only a 'bro designed that, I'd snap it right up."
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Do you think their stuff is too 'British' lefty?
 
That's a feeling I have about the designs. Of course that's exactly what the intention seems to be but I just can't get comfortable with the style. That said the one remaining item I have left - a shirt made from the heavy cotton used in printing beds - remains one of the best shirts I've ever owned.
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Not being familiar with what makes for particularly British style, I can't say
It's almost rustic and eastern - kimono influenced?
I don't know, I just want to like it but can't
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I think you would carry this cut of jacket very well:
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cool_hand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 2015 at 2:28pm
Lefty: Tender is not a community of artisans or made in house, it's one guy: William Kroll. However a lot of it is made in the UK by specialist manufacturers. It's a very niche brand, but I would not call it typically British – if there is such a thing. It feels more like a Japanese brand to me, or a brand designed by someone who has been heavily influenced by Japanese fashion design. I have owned the jeans and several shirts, including the shirt mentioned above made from ticking fabric. The fabrics and woad dye process are great but some of the construction/tailoring is not so hot. I liked it, and it's an interesting brand, but I sort I've sort of moved on from it, my shirts and jeans have been sold. It seems to have far more commercial success in Japan and the US, very few stores stock it in the UK.
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