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Topic: Sugar Cane
Posted By: drew
Subject: Sugar Cane
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2012 at 10:21pm
Would love to get a Sugar Cane discussion going here.

Here are my Okinawa Rainbows which I, in a moment of blindness, attempted to sell. Thank goodness nobody bit because I would have had serious regret.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6866553443/" rel="nofollow">
Python patch, different symbol than the standard Okinawas.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6866563869/" rel="nofollow">
Green twill tape up the inseams. I've seen this on other Toyo clothes, but I know this isn't on Union Stars or on the Hawaiis.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6866550411/" rel="nofollow">
Sashiko back pocket with the "Seven Treasures" pattern. This is the same green as on the Okinawa Canes, but in the bottom right corner instead of top right. Unlike the Hawaii's which has the Sashiko across the bottom of the pocket in yellow.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6866543971/" rel="nofollow">
Pocket bags and lining are all made with this amazing double-print fabric. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6866541729/" rel="nofollow">
Laurel top button.


From my limited knowledge, these seem to be a real mash up of features associated with the Levi's eras. 1930s style anti fit with super high rise. Crotch rivet, Low slung cinch back, belt loops, but no suspender buttons. Hidden rivets on back pockets.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6866525977/" rel="nofollow">
The fabric is very different from the standard Okinawas. Right hand twill. Lots of vertical texture. Lighter than the standard Okis too.

Raw (not one-wash):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6817488016/" rel="nofollow">

After first soak:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6817488262/" rel="nofollow">

These jeans started out almost black but have evolved into a whole range of different blues. Rainbow colors just starting to appear in the warp yarns.

Bill at Craft (RIP) told me these were a mix of natural and synthetic indigo. Any confirmation on this?





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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2012 at 10:32pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/6817508110/" rel="nofollow">

Also, I wonder if anyone out there knows enough Japanese to do a rudimentary translation of this for me?


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Posted By: bandit
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2012 at 10:33pm
Nice stuff Drew!!!

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Posted By: erk
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 7:16am





sugarcane 1947 - worn intermittently for 2.5 years or so. These were my favorite fit until I discovered the 1955 501. Still awesome though. I love the fabric. And its hard to beat the look of the all cotton stitching.

I normally do all my photos outside but its been so crappy out and I've been so busy I just decided to go ahead and do it while I had some time. I'll have to post some better pictures after the next wash.


Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 8:26am
Good stuff Erk - love those early SC47's of yours.


Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 9:01am
Just got my 1947's hemmed by Self Edge...will have to post some pics of them. 

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Posted By: ranonranonarat
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 10:09am
very nice erk. indoor pictures still look great. love the slightly fuller cut on the SC repro.

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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 9:32am
Originally posted by erk erk wrote:






I feel like this is probably the perfect expression of the back pocket fade. 

1. Shows internal structure of the pocket / how the fabric was folded. 
2. Dark halo of unworn fabric around the pocket.
3. Stitching causing roping on pocket and on pant fabric.
4. Hip whisker crossing over onto pocket fabric.
5. Busted arcs.
6. Rivet dots.


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Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 3:44pm
Does Sugar Cane make any models with a long inseam (36")?


Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 10:33am
I think my 47's had at least a 36" inseam before hemming. 

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Posted By: erk
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 11:13am
thanks everyone for the kudos.

and Rivet head is right. I was always concerned about sugar canes not being long enough due to the way they're tagged. Then I came to understand the sizing, and my 34x34 had a 36" inseam, which is plenty for me after shrinking.


Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 11:44am
Originally posted by Cinch Cinch wrote:

Does Sugar Cane make any models with a long inseam (36")?

I think all their jeans based on the 1947 start out with a pre-wash inseam of 36" (and shrink down to 32 1/2 to 33").  The bigger waist sizes (38 and bigger) start with a longer inseam (38 to 39").


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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 11:27am
I'm doing a series on my blog this week where I test out the effectiveness of Sugar Cane Vintage Wash & Premium Care soap. 

http://www.countryboybigcity.com/sugar-cane-vintage-wash-premium-care-enzyme/

I'll do a denimbro-only sneak peak later today too ;)


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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 1:29pm
From today's post -- Hawaii's pre wash. I'll be dead in a grave before I get picky about "preserving" a patch on a pair of jeans. The hair on hide, however, holds up better than I thought it would.




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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 4:55pm

Sneak peak from Thursday's post. 


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Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 11:52pm
Damn, I wish Sugar Canes came in longer inseams. One cold wash and they are too short for me. : (



Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 8:18am
My size 38's shrunk down to about a 36/37 length and 36.5 waist after cold soak and hanging several times. I eventually had them hemmed to a 32 by Self Edge. 



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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 10:12am
Global warming, rising sea levels -- just say you're getting ready for the flood!

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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2012 at 3:29pm
Post wash results at my blog. Here's a denimbro sneak peek



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Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 7:29am
No, actually I still have a enough length for a small cuff if desired. I'm pretty long in the spine. Tongue

Originally posted by drew drew wrote:

Global warming, rising sea levels -- just say you're getting ready for the flood!


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Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 7:06am
Here they are after some sporadic wear over time:




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Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 10:42am
Looking good Matt, got any fit pics there?


Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 11:16am
Heech, let me see if I can find one or two...wore them to the point of filth over the weekend...





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Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 11:19am
Hmmm...oddly, they don't seem to be "floods"....

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Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 12:11pm
Great pictures Rivet Head, the one with the mannequin torso looks like something from a bygone era.


Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 12:59pm
Thanks Maynard! That was in the U.P. in a town called Negaunee...so nice and quiet up there. 



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Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 1:14pm
Nice shots Rivet, agree with maynard on the torso pic.  I also have a pair that have just recently been shortened/re-hemmed after  one wash. 
Will try and get a fit-pic too, although for some reason I feel my pictures have been a bit 'pants' recently, think I will go back to using my trusty old compact  :) 


Posted By: erk
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 8:12am

a cross post, but I thought it belonged here.


Posted By: attackwithstones
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2012 at 9:49am
I am looking for a Sugar Cane Shirt that they produced in the last two years.   I remember reading an interview with Christophe where he said Sugar Cane produced a shirt out of his Ticking Stripe Fabric that MF used for pockets and linings in multiple pieces.  I am looking for that Sugar Cane "Ticking Stripe" shirt.  It should be white with blue stripes, such as this:

http://www.misterfreedom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Gillet_Ville_closeGrey.jpg

If anyone has any knowledge of this shirt, please let me know.  I haven't been able to find it with a fair amount of searching around on Japanese sites.


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Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 10:22am
I gave my Okinawa Rainbows a wash recently and the plant dyes are starting to show a bit.  I couldn't photograph it very well, but there's subtle green and purple bits peeking out now:


You can sort of see one of the green streaks in the center here.


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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2013 at 7:35pm
Anyone have any idea what kind of chain stitch machines Toyo might be using on their 50/50 blend jeans? The hems are so narrow--much more so than on the Union Special 43200g machines. I don't believe the folder on the Union Special machines can be adjusted for width of hem, but I could very well be wrong. Any ideas?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/8509222726/" rel="nofollow">



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Posted By: erk
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2013 at 6:41pm
you can adjust for width of hem on a union special. I'm not sure how narrow or wide the tolerances can be, but adjusting is possible. 


Posted By: kiya
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 1:14am
Originally posted by drew drew wrote:

Anyone have any idea what kind of chain stitch machines Toyo might be using on their 50/50 blend jeans? The hems are so narrow--much more so than on the Union Special 43200g machines. I don't believe the folder on the Union Special machines can be adjusted for width of hem, but I could very well be wrong. Any ideas?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/8509222726/" rel="nofollow">


That's a 3/8" hem, its the same which we do at Self Edge at SESF and SENY (SELA is done at 1/2").  The reason this Sugarcane jeans looks far narrower than usual is because that fabric shrinks quite a bit and even 1mm more of shrinkage will make the hemline look far narrower. 
If you can tell the difference between 1/2" and 3/8" you can definitely tell the difference between a raw 3/8" hem and a hot washed/dried unsanforized 3/8" hem.


Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 9:53am

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That's a 3/8" hem, its the same which we do at Self Edge at SESF and SENY (SELA is done at 1/2").  The reason this Sugarcane jeans looks far narrower than usual is because that fabric shrinks quite a bit and even 1mm more of shrinkage will make the hemline look far narrower. 
If you can tell the difference between 1/2" and 3/8" you can definitely tell the difference between a raw 3/8" hem and a hot washed/dried unsanforized 3/8" hem.
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Thanks Kiya! Very cool.


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Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2013 at 11:19am
My SC 47's, the older model, with arcs and red tab. These are my favourite pair of jeans at present: Soaked once, cold washed once, and now worn for 'best' (I'm old school). Have been wearing them on the odd occasion since Jan 2013, and will continue to wear occasionally without washing. Will probably update this time next year









Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2013 at 11:28am
One of my all time favorites.


Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2013 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Double 0 Soul Double 0 Soul wrote:

One of my all time favorites.


Thanks, one of mine too. I've always been a Levi's/Lee fan, but bought two pairs on a bit of a whim a couple of years ago, one tagged 32x32, the other - 34x34. Wore the 32's for ages but shrunk them in the washer; Shame as they were looking great.
These I'm taking my time with as they are near-impossible to source.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2013 at 12:14pm
Mine are tagged 32"x34"  3-4years of on off wear bought around 2003 2 hot soaks and no wash.




Would give my right arm for another pair raw +arcs.



Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2013 at 12:22pm
Very nice pair indeed - seen a few used pairs now and they never cease to impress (I think erk has a pair too?)

Agree on the limb-offering statement - would love another 34x34 raw+arcs (also the gripper-zipped 1955 zip model+arcs)


Posted By: illumin8em
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2013 at 10:27pm
I am really liking these 47s fellas.

Why I cannot find the a description of the difference in the type I and type II 47s, what am I missing? I briefly had a pair of 66s that were quite nice, but the inseam and taper ration were off a bit.


Posted By: attackwithstones
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2013 at 10:31pm
The type 2's are a lighter fabric and I believe a hair slimmer?

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Posted By: cool_hand
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 4:07am
I have worn out 2 pairs of 1947's with Arcs, great jeans, great denim, would love to get another pair.

Anyone had any experience with the 1955's?

What do they size up like?


Posted By: illumin8em
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 9:42am
Sugar Cane 301 Okinawa 50/50



Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2013 at 11:51am
I wear a tag-size 30 in LVC 1947 raw. What tag-size should I get for SC 1947 Type-I raw? Much appreciated.


Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2013 at 2:11pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewtolson/8562758488/" rel="nofollow">

Crosspost from How It's Worn - SC Okinawa Rainbows


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Posted By: redragon
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2013 at 9:46am

Trying out the SC40400N, fits not too shabby...

Really like the fabric!


Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2013 at 10:19am
Looks great! I love the cuffs. More detail shots!

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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2013 at 11:27am
redragon, that cuff has transformed the fit or have they had a wash?


Posted By: redragon
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 7:50am
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No wash, just cuffed it, I agree with you, really makes the fit that much better!
(Also surprised myself when I did it haha)


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 8:01am
Makes you look about a foot taller, are you hemming them or sticking with the megacuff?


Posted By: devilish
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 8:34am
Just won a pair of the 55's with arcs from the dreaded ebay. Should be here by Friday. Have a pair of 66's already, which were my first real pair of quality denim. Looking forward to getting these.


Posted By: redragon
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 8:40am
Don't think I will go with the megacuff/hem, double cuff might be the way to go.


Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 8:54am
Originally posted by devilish devilish wrote:

Just won a pair of the 55's with arcs from the dreaded ebay. Should be here by Friday. Have a pair of 66's already, which were my first real pair of quality denim. Looking forward to getting these.

You're the stinker that out bid me! That's okay, I was concerned the waist would be too small, so I placed a low bid.  If they don't work out for you, drop me a line.  


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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 9:24am
Here are a pair of my SC Oki. Photos taken last December and the small hole in the right leg has opened up after a wash. They have served me well and i have decided to cut them into squares/spares, I will probably get 16 squares out of them and RM international small package will cost £3.50 +£1 for a postage bag. If anyone needs a 8"x8"  denim patch that will be within keeping with SC Oki,s PM me. Pocket bags and buttons are mint so first come first served on those, dont be greedy and have them all.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/89777545@N04/9359769560/" rel="nofollow"> http://www.flickr.com/photos/89777545@N04/9359769560/" rel="nofollow -


http://www.flickr.com/photos/89777545@N04/9356991105/" rel="nofollow"> http://www.flickr.com/photos/89777545@N04/9356991105/" rel="nofollow -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/89777545@N04/9359763416/" rel="nofollow"> http://www.flickr.com/photos/89777545@N04/9359763416/" rel="nofollow -

I am not making numerous trips to the post office i will ship them all in 2 weeks time.

This is purely a good will gesture PP me £4.50gbp for International or £1.50 if you are in the UK. I will not profit from this.


Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 9:54am
Those are too pretty to cut up!!!

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Posted By: devilish
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 10:05am
Sorry Setterman. I did have to wake up at 5am to bid if that's any consolation.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2013 at 10:07am
That^ was last December i have worked them to within an inch of there life since then. Tape measure clip has ruined the pocket hole, 4" hole in the thigh. If they still looked like that now i would get another 6 months out of them.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 6:17pm
I would love a few squares please send them my way. 


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 1:38am
No problem Jonathan, How would you fancy giving me a free proxy service sometime in the future in exchange for multiple Oki squares and pocket bags shipped free of charge?

You scratch my back i scratch yours sort of transaction.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 1:52am
A few macro shots of my SC47,s showing all that delicious oxidation and grime that my wife finds such an insane turn on.

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Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 2:41am
It's the misplaced apostrophe on the red tab that gets me all hot and bothered!


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 3:11am
Its like i was acting as creative consultant for the Sugar Cane grammar department.


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 3:31am
Punctuation department!


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 10:31pm
Does anyone know when Sugar Cane typically releases their new catalogs?  Still no sign of a F/W 13 catalog on the Japanese site.

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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2013 at 12:31am
Im not sure they would actually go up on the site because they are not for sale, They are typically given to SC distributors and retailers as promo. All mine have been given to me (some i have had to ask/beg for) free of charge with purchases.


Posted By: SLAB2
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2013 at 3:58am
I received one from Buzz Rickson F/W 13 with my Sugar Cane jacket. Like Double O said; it's usually given for free when ordering from Japan through some webshops


Posted By: indigo_eagle
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2013 at 4:02am
Originally posted by SLAB2 SLAB2 wrote:

I received one from Buzz Rickson F/W 13 with my Sugar Cane jacket. Like Double O said; it's usually given for free when ordering from Japan through some webshops

Ah, interesting. Is there anyting new from BR in it?

I was a bit surprised that retailers like milnet had many items that were sold out and didn't seem to get restocked.



Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 8:52am
I just picked up some Sugar Cane Edo AI jeans.  This is a pretty old style, like 2008ish?  I was pretty excited to find a pair new, raw, in my size.

Probably the craziest denim I've ever laid eyes on.





In this ^ photo, you can see a lighter aqua patch across the back of the right knee.  There are smaller spots like this all over, and they look really cool.



The cinch buckle is one of the prettiest I've ever seen.  The prongs look hand-hammered.  I'm a bit nervous to clip it since they're copper and perhaps not the strongest.  Thoughts?



This was my attempt to show just how green the denim is.  This doesn't come close.  It's REALLY green, the color is like nothing else I've ever seen.  Ranges from indigo to aqua.

The fabric is also really prickly from the Sugar Cane fibers, moreso than the Okinawa/Hawaii denims by far.  I'd heard people describe Sugar Cane denim as having a sweet smell before, but never noticed it until I got these wet.  The sweet smell is really distinct.

Totally crazy jeans, but definitely not for the timid.  I'm a big time fabric nerd, so I can't wait to see how these wear in.


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Posted By: indigo_eagle
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 9:00am

Amazing jeans, Nicholas.

Are these kind of cinches to be clipped? It seems like a 'safe' Japanese version meant to be like this. Not sure.




Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 9:42am
That could be the case.  The end of the prong is hammered thin and "bites" pretty well even without clipping, so I'll probably leave it as-is instead of risking a bent or broken prong.



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Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 11:20am
The light in the workshop is better now, this shot shows the color a bit more clearly, compared to my Rogue Territory shirt:




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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 11:33am
The single back pocket is not to my taste but the beautifully unique denim certainly is, I would not worry too much about the cinch Nicholas, just use it as it is, the way SC intended they nip the denim just fine without slippage. I can not ever recall seeing a broken one.


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 11:56am
Lovely jeans Hollows but what happened to 'Why?' ?


Posted By: b_F
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 12:06pm
Great pic up! I'd love to see a full body shot ;)


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Maynard Friedman Maynard Friedman wrote:

Lovely jeans Hollows but what happened to 'Why?' ?

Hah, touche!  I made three purchases recently, which are slowly coming in, then pledged to not buy anything for a while.  I'll be getting the Russell pants and probably won't make it out of Inspiration without getting something, but 2013 was definitely a year of spending, hopefully 2014 will be a year of saving.

I'll try to get a fit pic soon, but I'm too lazy to set up a tripod in the snow right now.


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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 1:02pm
If anyone on this forum is the jammy beggar who outbid me on those SC 47,s +arcs last Friday afternoon from seller raygib40 then thanks a f*****g lot we are not friends anymore!


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 1:21pm
We never were in the first place...


Posted By: srgprod
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 2:23pm
Aren't those Edo Ai's the most interesting jeans? I love the tool pocket on the leg, the coin pocket, that cinch and the single back pocket. They even fit well. 

You'll love the way these will wear over time. The color seems to change all the time and they get more comfortable. I heard they spent years developing this denim. The raws used hand dyed natural indigo. Very unique and very rare jeans. 

Great pick up!


Posted By: clayton
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 6:53pm
awesome jeans nicholas Thumbs Up


Posted By: slowdownarthur
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2013 at 12:02pm
The Edo Ai denim looks really beautiful Nicolas! 

 I'm regretting not picking up a pair when I had chance.
If anyone knows of a pair in a W36" or 34" please let me know.
 Pants Shop Avenue only has some small sizes left.


Posted By: clayton
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2013 at 5:28pm
that denim is just fantastic


Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2013 at 11:34am
Originally posted by hollows hollows wrote:

That could be the case.  The end of the prong is hammered thin and "bites" pretty well even without clipping, so I'll probably leave it as-is instead of risking a bent or broken prong.

Seconded. Same clip is on the Okinawa Rainbows and I've had no trouble.

Beautiful jeans! Moar pixx plzzzzzz


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Posted By: theinvisiblehand
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 7:18pm
Hey guys, 

long time lurker, first time poster and all that. I will post some pictures of my 47 later in the interest of sharing, but for now I have a quick question: how do the okinawa rainbow run? Are they cut like the 47 or are they smaller/bigger? I have been looking at them for a while now and was afraid to order the wrong size.

thanks!


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 7:33pm
I haven't tried on the 47s, but I think the Rainbows are a little fuller in the leg and longer rise.  I'd imagine the waist sizing is the same though.  I wear 32 in almost everything, and didn't have to deviate from that for the Rainbows.

If you're ordering through Pants Shop Avenue, Naoki will measure the actual pair for you.


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Posted By: theinvisiblehand
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 7:52am
Originally posted by hollows hollows wrote:

I haven't tried on the 47s, but I think the Rainbows are a little fuller in the leg and longer rise.  I'd imagine the waist sizing is the same though.  I wear 32 in almost everything, and didn't have to deviate from that for the Rainbows.

If you're ordering through Pants Shop Avenue, Naoki will measure the actual pair for you.

Ah that would have been my next question! I was thinking about ordering through rakuten actually. I never dealth with Pants Shop in the past. Do I need a proxy or this is doable simply through email between me and the store?

thanks


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 8:20am
I'd definitely go with Pants Shop Avenue if they have your size.  Rainbows are pretty hard to find now.

You can just email them directly and pay via paypal, no proxy needed.  I've ordered from them twice now and both times were easy, helpful, and pleasant.


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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 10:23am
Where is the best place, all things considered, to buy a SC Hawaii?


Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 10:30am
ATC, I've had great experiences at Self Edge. I understand that there are cheaper ways to get sugar cane, but I appreciate the Brick and Mortar experience, being able to look at several pairs at once, free hemming, ETC ETC ETC.

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Posted By: drew
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 10:31am
Originally posted by hollows hollows wrote:

I haven't tried on the 47s, but I think the Rainbows are a little fuller in the leg and longer rise.  I'd imagine the waist sizing is the same though.  I wear 32 in almost everything, and didn't have to deviate from that for the Rainbows.

If you're ordering through Pants Shop Avenue, Naoki will measure the actual pair for you.

Seconded. Fuller than a 47. I'm no expert but I'd compare with a 30s cut. I wonder how they compare to the edo ai in cut.


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Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 10:46am
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

Where is the best place, all things considered, to buy a SC Hawaii?

With the weak yen, straight from Japan.  

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/hinoya/item/sc40401a/" rel="nofollow - http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/hinoya/item/sc40401a/

Crazy that their standard '47 is $130.  Half the price of LVC and most other Japanese brands, and as good (or better than in the case of LVC) any of them.  


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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 11:01am
Thanks, guys.

For the Hawaiis, I believe they run tts and are one wash, so I am thinking, since I am a 33, to go for a 32 and they will stretch out a little.
Sound reasonable?


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 11:08am
If they fit in the waist like the Rainbows and Edo AI, you should be good with a 32.

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Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 11:15am
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

Thanks, guys.

For the Hawaiis, I believe they run tts and are one wash, so I am thinking, since I am a 33, to go for a 32 and they will stretch out a little.
Sound reasonable?

The Japanese sites I'm looking at show the one wash size 32 at 31.5" (32.2" for the size 33). My experience with '47 and '66s Canes is that they shrink to below tagged, so I'm assuming those numbers for the Hawaiis are correct.  


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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 11:32am
I have some Hawaii in a 33" give me an hour or so and i will size them up for you. setterman is correct they usually come up .5" under tag and stretch back.


Posted By: devilish
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 11:41am
Yep, they end up smaller than tagged but as per usual they'll stretch. Both the 66's and 55's I have were small. In the case of the 55's they were an inch smaller at least and are still .5 under. If I didn't wear a belt I'm sure they'd be back to tagged easily though.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 11:50am
SC Hawaii tagged 33" measure 17" across the waistband (big method) at max stretch, I don't recall ever washing them. I have bought a lot of SC from Vari over the years these included, I will fwd you some contact info mr randal.


Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 11:58am
Here are some old pics of my Edo Ai - S40500





Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 12:02pm
Sizing for the natural indigos (SC40400 & SC40500) was W31 - for the regular models (SC40701 & SC40302) at least W32 or bigger...


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 12:47pm
Thanks guys!
Double 0- your 33s, which I guess should have been roughly 32.5, stretched to a 34?
Has Lady Soul taken up baking?
I am thinking I will try a 33...


Posted By: Ukeno
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 2:24pm
Am I right in thinking that the Hawaii's are the exact same fabric as Hollows Edi Ai's or, just a similar 50/50 mix of Cotton and Sugar cane Fibres?



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