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Topic: What's next?
Posted By: mr randal
Subject: What's next?
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 1:34pm
Everything surfaces, peaks, then morphs.

This is right now:


All the cool guys FMSC '30s comb-overs are climbing into super high fade Boardwalk Empire back combs.


All the Zooeys are having a deep Carly Simon moment.


Super slub heavyweight hand-loomed look denim + wabash.


Obviously.





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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 1:43pm
I think this is next for the hip guys:






Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 1:57pm


If the abundance of UGG boots worn by suburban soccer moms trying to look like their teenage daughters on my most recent trip to the grocery store is any indication of things to come -- I see wooly chaps making a big comeback in 2014.


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 2:01pm
^no pic showing, bob.


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 2:37pm


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 2:55pm
Get it together, B.


Posted By: Mr Black
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 12:53am
I'm stuck at FMSC. What does that stand for?

Lots of love for the red clouds. One if my fave denims.

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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 1:26am
Freeman's sporting club barbers. They specialize in that kind of micro- '30s comb-over. They have a shop here in SF and in Brooklyn.


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 2:10am
This is going to be big in 2014:


Posted By: Mr Black
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 2:36am
Paul weller has been sporting that style for years.

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Posted By: rotten03
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 3:47am
Kurt Russell looks like he's sporting the urban sombrero....Williamsburg Sombrero? I'm patenting that.


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 8:40am
I don't know what the hell is going on. 

I was trying to be a smartass and post a picture of wooly chaps --- no dice!

Anyhow I guess it was some sort of internet karma, not letting me post smartass remarks.



Posted By: *lefty*
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 10:10am
bicorns

curls

falconry


your move, lvc



Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 11:12am
3D printed sun/eyeglasses with creative shapes

people will scan and post vintage eyeframes for public consumption. specialized programs will be made to grade sizes


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 11:29am
Denim-wise, I think more people will be wearing looser cuts. Vintage repro saturation? I hope not!


Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 12:04pm
I think this sagging jeans fad will go all the way to where you'll buy two (one legged ) jeans so young guys can just wear one pant per leg that goes up to their knee and really long boxers.

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Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 1:16pm
I'm not sure what's next, but I'm excited to see the end of:

White people in war bonnets/general Native exploitation fashion
Rounded/shawl/peter pan collars
Anchors & ampersands in every brand name/logo 




Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 2:26pm
Ugh, yes, enough with the "&"s, "X"s, and shawl collars.


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 2:28pm
Outside of a Crossroads consignment on market street this weekend I heard a girl with the Californua Sexy Baby Uptalk voice saying to her friend: "next season is all about whales and triangles".


Posted By: Mr Black
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 3:20pm
Whales and triangles? We've been rockin that for months over here.

It's all seals and hexagons this season. That's where I'm at.

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Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 4:15pm
Manatees and pentagons in this happening post code.


Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 5:01pm
I think that might have been from Art School Confidential.  I'm not really sure, as I started nodding off towards the end of it.  Too much like my semester at Cornish.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 1:49am
All quality reproductions seem to be repro's of Western garments, i think because burgeoning economy's  look to the future because they perceive the recent bad times to be worse than the current "good times" but once they have the basics and realise its not all its cracked up to be harp back to the perceived "good old days" So my long and contrived point is... I would like to see Eastern countries make quality reproductions of their untapped seem of style from past generations.

1942 Chinese guy at the front with fitted military style jacket and voluminous pants floats my boat.
http://i.imgur.com/EcCet.jpg" rel="nofollow">Four unidentified Doolittle Raid crewmen, who bailed out over China from Aircraft #14, are escorted through a Chinese village before being reunited with other airmen April 1942







Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 6:44am
3d scan your feet and send them to shoemakers for a perfect fit or make a last with it


Posted By: xallanx
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 8:57am
Maybe early American hobo style will play a more prominent role in 2014, and every hipster will trade in his painted axe for a bindle.


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 9:50am
I wonder if stifel style fabric has peaked or if it'll max out next year?
I notice the new RRL season has tons of discharge wabash...


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2014 at 4:48pm




Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2014 at 6:16pm
Big Trouble in SS14

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Posted By: akuma no uta
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2014 at 6:32pm
I'm hoping for more tropical safari type stuff, linens and whites and light khaki


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2014 at 8:51pm
FW14 of course:




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Posted By: xallanx
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2014 at 9:42pm
some of this...

and this...


Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2014 at 10:27pm
I'm now shaving everyday, once again. Trim denim but not 2000 skinny, think '69


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 9:25am
i hope it's the end of the Kinfauxlk era.... and those weird sneaker wedges. I fucking hate those shoes. Even more than Uggs.  YOU'RE FOOLING NO ONE.

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Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 9:26am
And if ugly blue shoelaces can pull in $150k, Made in USA trend is gonna keep goin this year... which is good news, minus the fucking blue shoelaces.

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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 9:49am
Terminogy-wise, I would like to hear no more "reach out", "journey", "talk soon" and considerably less "indigo" and "organic" (as a verb).


Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 9:50am
sweaters are going to be big this year. 

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Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 9:56am
Wait, what?  The saddle bag is real! 


Posted By: illumin8em
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 10:11am
Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

i hope it's the end of the Kinfauxlk era.... and those weird sneaker wedges. I fucking hate those shoes. Even more than Uggs.  YOU'RE FOOLING NO ONE.


what is the Kinfauxlk era? I may have completely miss this. Right with you on the wedgies

Originally posted by Joseph Hill Joseph Hill wrote:


Wait, what? The saddle bag is real!


always was to us cowboys


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 11:20am
Originally posted by Happy Hooligan Happy Hooligan wrote:

sweaters are going to be big this year. 

not really into slouchy fits

Originally posted by wrote:

weird sneaker wedges

please post example


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

i hope it's the end of the Kinfauxlk era...


Do you have something against tan, bone, brown, beige & oatmeal?


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 12:37pm
Kinfauxlk = Kinfolk Magazine type stuff

As a preface, I'm talking about this as kind of an aesthetic. I've never bought the magazine and probably never would, but I think this aesthetic permeates all over the freakin internet these days. To me it seems like this whole 'balanced, intentional living' thing is a total put on, not genuine and completely self indulgent. It's like taking the idea of crafting your image on the internet in 2007 and adding this element of holier-than-thou bulllshit to it and bringing it to real life. In my mind when I let my negativity run wild all I can think to myself is "What do these people meet up with their fake tumblr friends at a large reclaimed wood table and eat only wine, cheese, and berries for a living and then process the images with a VSCO cam filter and post it on the internet and call it content?!"  .... I guess I probably see more of it on a day to day basis due to being in a creative field that requires me to be on the internet looking for inspiration all the time but it just irks me. And hell, maybe it stems from jealousy that I'll never be cool enough for the cool kids table, but it just annoys the absolute hell out of me. 

As for the shoes, it started with these isabel marant sneakers:

and trickled down from there where every crappy shoe manufactuerer is making them now and I feel like I see them CONSTANTLY on the streets here. Sure to come back around in spring full force.


So much anger coming from me in this thread. Taking a sick day from work and I feel like crap so it's coming out as a message board post. Ha!


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Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 12:39pm
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

Terminogy-wise, I would like to hear no more "reach out", "journey", "talk soon" and considerably less "indigo" and "organic" (as a verb).

To piggy back on this (and continue my cranky posts in this thread:)
handcrafted
artisanal
maker
handcrafted
bespoke
etc etc etc






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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 12:42pm
I <3 prouxlsie.

Brace yourself, you're getting a big hug at inspiration.


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 12:47pm
They look like what you wear when you've broken your feet and you're on crutches. Instant sympathy.


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 12:51pm
for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:

http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

when i watched this my head nearly popped off with annoyance—the footage is fine, but does have that vsco film grade, but the narration makes me want to punch a person straight in the face.

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MEN WHO BORROWED MOTORCYCLES TO GO ON A DIRT BIKE RIDE IN THE WOODS. YOUR MEALS WERE CATERED AND YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT REAL MEN HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FUCKING YEARS.

End rant. I promise.

Also I need to buy my flight n stuff if I'm gonna make it to LA.


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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 1:06pm
If my wife ever falls pregnant with quintuplets, after much discussion our mutually preferred names will be "reach out" "journey" "talk soon" "indigo" and "organic"

Handcrafted made it into the final six but as proulxsie points out, it is becoming rather overused nowadays  Wink


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 1:22pm
^ They will have their own Toddler Trend Forecasting firm.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 1:30pm
I would not allow that to happen... Firstly im not a monster and secondly it would be in direct competition with the newly announced "Double-0,s Toddler Trend Forecasting Co. Ltd"  Plus all their spare time will be taken up with forced labour.


Posted By: Denimetc
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:


"It was a chance for us to grow... to push our limits"
   For cryin' out loud!!!


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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 1:35pm
Good man. Those tiny fingers are only the proper size for placing grommets for such a sweet, fleeting moment.


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 2:14pm
'Made in Antarctica' is really going to take off this year.

I also think rainforest tree-houses are going to solve both the global deforestation and homelessness problems simultaneously.


Posted By: Lordofward8
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 2:36pm
I'm watching the video, as I type this.....and want to turn it off....so bad...this is a god damn joke...right?


Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:

http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

when i watched this my head nearly popped off with annoyance—the footage is fine, but does have that vsco film grade, but the narration makes me want to punch a person straight in the face.

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MEN WHO BORROWED MOTORCYCLES TO GO ON A DIRT BIKE RIDE IN THE WOODS. YOUR MEALS WERE CATERED AND YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT REAL MEN HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FUCKING YEARS.

End rant. I promise.

Also I need to buy my flight n stuff if I'm gonna make it to LA.


Posted By: Lordofward8
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 2:46pm
WOW, courage...craft cocktails...cigars...matching endro gear, marinated drumsticks....seems like a killer bachelorette party if you ask me.

And if that's what it was, then well done. But to say that this video is to bring forth some dormant sliver of courage then they need to read Frederick Douglass!


Originally posted by Lordofward8 Lordofward8 wrote:

I'm watching the video, as I type this.....and want to turn it off....so bad...this is a god damn joke...right?


Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:

http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

when i watched this my head nearly popped off with annoyance—the footage is fine, but does have that vsco film grade, but the narration makes me want to punch a person straight in the face.

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MEN WHO BORROWED MOTORCYCLES TO GO ON A DIRT BIKE RIDE IN THE WOODS. YOUR MEALS WERE CATERED AND YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT REAL MEN HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FUCKING YEARS.

End rant. I promise.

Also I need to buy my flight n stuff if I'm gonna make it to LA.


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 3:10pm
One thing in Kinfolk's favor- they are impossible to effectively mock or satirize, as they are a (unironic) mocking satire of themselves.


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 3:10pm
I'm not going to watch it for fear of hipster level cringing. I'm too innocent for that.


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 3:31pm
It really is like a Corporate bonding/away day/think outside the box event taken to the next level.

How much does that cost?

If you want to smoke cigars and feel smug and superior whilst dressed identically to everyone else in a manly style, surely it would be cheaper to go to a Self Edge party!


Posted By: The Jerry
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 3:55pm



That video makes me want to stab myself.






Posted By: robroy
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 4:09pm
Whilst I understand the impetus, men have been labeled stumbling bumbling good for nothing's, you lost me at gin and tonics.


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:





Wouldn't mind a set of these for my bicycle.


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 5:34pm
I could actually go for one of those worn Jack Style.
I like the one he wears better than the LVC version though, the single strap closure is appealing and probably less work.


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 6:07pm
Oh god, I saw that video as it made the rounds on tumblr last year and I just about punched my computer screen.  The fact that they kept using phrases like "exploring masculinity" really topped it off nicely.

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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 6:17pm
I kept thinking that I had seen that video before, but then I realized that the movie I was thinking of was from the '70s, and it involved a different type of exploration of masculinity.


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 6:18pm
Or maybe it didn't.


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 7:18pm
Or maybe it did....

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Posted By: devilish
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 7:59pm
I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds. Fuck those idiots and fuck their rich parents for giving birth to them in the first place.


Posted By: smoothsailor
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 10:35pm
amen


Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 5:36am
Maybe it isn't really as pretentious and douchey as the narrator makes it out to be?  Nah...  

I see on their website they've been nice enough to post links to the gear used in these tests of strength.  Some day, you can be a man, purchase these items, and go on adventures!  


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Posted By: spork141
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 5:45am

Ever since I saw this jacket from the remake of 310 to Yuma I wanted to own it....some comapny makes a replica actually...i could never pull it of though...nobody can!   is not whats next but in some weird way i wish it could be









Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 6:23am
Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:

http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

when i watched this my head nearly popped off with annoyance—the footage is fine, but does have that vsco film grade, but the narration makes me want to punch a person straight in the face.

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MEN WHO BORROWED MOTORCYCLES TO GO ON A DIRT BIKE RIDE IN THE WOODS. YOUR MEALS WERE CATERED AND YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT REAL MEN HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FUCKING YEARS.

End rant. I promise.

Also I need to buy my flight n stuff if I'm gonna make it to LA.
What a bunch of assholes, the people who made that poncy film I mean. I wonder how much that exploration cost? They probably could have bought used dirt or enduro bikes and just gone camping for real, for similar $.


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 6:36am
True, but they wouldn't have had the camaraderie, the bond, the chance to share a cigar with 'like-minded individuals' in their very own band of brothers. Plus a teacher organising the trip for them and telling them what to do.

In all honesty, that type of themed 'experience' is fine in my book so long as it is marketed and consumed as such, rather than pretending you're discovering a new continent.


Posted By: Denimetc
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 7:01am
Originally posted by Maynard Friedman Maynard Friedman wrote:

If you want to smoke cigars and feel smug and superior whilst dressed identically to everyone else in a manly style, surely it would be cheaper to go to a Self Edge party!
 
... or to join the Army (minus cigars) and if you want to feel really superior - join the NAVY !


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Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 7:21am
Point taken, that kind of experience is fine, and I guess just as genuine as any, but to me that type of exploring is done when you set up your own camp, drive your own bike and have to actually deal with any struggles that arise by yourself. 


Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 2:45pm
The first 30 seconds of the video seems like a Ken Burns film about joining Lewis & Clark rather than a catered camping and motorcycling trip.

I do agree with their comment about an "age of eroding masculinity".  As Adam Carolla said, "In Fifty Years We'll All Be Chicks"

I chuckled when they said, "it wasn't about who had the best gear"...........oh yeah?


Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 3:03pm
I just watched 1/2 of that video.   I love the "real men" line as they're having cheese and grapes as an appetizer.     There's a reason Sam Elliott narrates Dodge Truck commercials instead of Ira Glass.

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Posted By: Lordofward8
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 3:06pm
" There's a reason Sam Elliott narrates Dodge Truck commercials instead of Ira Glass."

That's hilarious!!!!!





Originally posted by Happy Hooligan Happy Hooligan wrote:

I just watched 1/2 of that video.   I love the "real men" line as they're having cheese and grapes as an appetizer.     There's a reason Sam Elliott narrates Dodge Truck commercials instead of Ira Glass.


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 4:31pm
The website makes me even more mad. 'ADVENTURES FOR MEN' should just be called 'overpriced sausage party'—too lazy to look back in posts, but whoever posted above that you can get a dirtbike and a tent for the same price is CORRECT.

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Posted By: dkatz
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 9:13pm
Originally posted by hollows hollows wrote:

I'm not sure what's next, but I'm excited to see the end of:
Rounded/shawl/peter pan collars

Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

Ugh, yes, enough with the "&"s, "X"s, and shawl collars.

Looking forward to pissing you both off with my J Crew deck jacket at Inspiration! That's right -- not only is it a shawl collar, it's a simulacra of a Nigel Cabourn simulacra of an appropriate usage of a shawl collar! get ready for brainsplosions.


Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

Kinfauxlk = Kinfolk Magazine type stuff

As a preface, I'm talking about this as kind of an aesthetic. I've never bought the magazine and probably never would, but I think this aesthetic permeates all over the freakin internet these days. To me it seems like this whole 'balanced, intentional living' thing is a total put on, not genuine and completely self indulgent. It's like taking the idea of crafting your image on the internet in 2007 and adding this element of holier-than-thou bulllshit to it and bringing it to real life. In my mind when I let my negativity run wild all I can think to myself is "What do these people meet up with their fake tumblr friends at a large reclaimed wood table and eat only wine, cheese, and berries for a living and then process the images with a VSCO cam filter and post it on the internet and call it content?!"  .... I guess I probably see more of it on a day to day basis due to being in a creative field that requires me to be on the internet looking for inspiration all the time but it just irks me. And hell, maybe it stems from jealousy that I'll never be cool enough for the cool kids table, but it just annoys the absolute hell out of me. 

A) I already think you're one of the cooler people on the Interbutts

B) 
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

Brace yourself, you're getting a big hug at inspiration.
I'll fight you for first hugs.


I think the tension around "masculinity" is going to continue for a while still. As per that horrendous video, or Hodis with his tough-guy rat-rod attire and accompanying vehicle, but perfectly manicured coiffeur and moustachio. Things will move more back towards imitation of/striving towards machismo, which is inherently counter-impacting, and those doing it -- wearing the wider-cut jeans with boots alldayeverday and tough-guy jackets and cuffs -- will laugh at my skinny-jean wearing ass.

Just mentally preparing myself.

I do also think there will be continuing growing interest in and concern with the fidelity and integrity with which something is made (obviously I think this, hence www.niceworkseries.com), and the idea of dollars as votes in who and what one supports. However, I think the J Crews and such will continue being so fast to appropriate the signals of this fidelity that most consumers -- even informed consumers -- will have a hard time finding their "real thing."


Posted By: tg76
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 9:29pm
eeuuuggghhhhh,,, sorry Dkatz but you talking about masculinity just bought back to mind your pictures of the 'ceremony' a couple of years ago




and hi :)


Posted By: potemkin_city
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 9:36pm
Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:

http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

when i watched this my head nearly popped off with annoyance—the footage is fine, but does have that vsco film grade, but the narration makes me want to punch a person straight in the face.

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MEN WHO BORROWED MOTORCYCLES TO GO ON A DIRT BIKE RIDE IN THE WOODS. YOUR MEALS WERE CATERED AND YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT REAL MEN HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FUCKING YEARS.

End rant. I promise.

Also I need to buy my flight n stuff if I'm gonna make it to LA.

Nothing says "Masculinity" like buying matching jackets, hats, and boots and then starting a fire with a propane torch. I bet the most difficult part of this whole trip for these pussies was not being able to update their Instagrams. Well, I guess that one guy with the iPhone can, but the other 13 guys were stuck being super manly.


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 10:29pm
The thing that bugs me about it is not that they're doing an un-manly thing by having a manicured experience, but that they're narrowing the field of what can be considered "manly" into a weird, super-selective and inauthentic caricature.  Motorcycles, the outdoors, beer and thick slabs of meat.

Fuck that.  If people use male pronouns to talk about you, then anything you do is manly. 

I have a bigass beard, work with my hands, love green tea and Georgia O'keeffe and think Michael Fassbender is smokin' hot.  None of these things are less manly than the others, as far as I'm concerned.


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2014 at 11:02pm
Be a good husband/dad. That's the manliest thing one can do. Everything else is masturbation.

I'm neither a husband or dad. I don't pretend to be manly. It's hard enough accepting who I am and being me.




Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 12:48am
"A place were we don't need a compass to find north, we can just feel it."




Posted By: sevensigns
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 1:47am
http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

dear God, I wish I hadn't seen this.


Posted By: dkatz
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 9:28am
Originally posted by tg76 tg76 wrote:

eeuuuggghhhhh,,, sorry Dkatz but you talking about masculinity just bought back to mind your pictures of the 'ceremony' a couple of years ago




and hi :)

Hi! Oh man, I was just telling someone about that recently. What an amazing experience.

And Hollows, I want to hug/high-five you for that. Couldn't agree more and have had a lifelong frustration with the bullshit about what is "manly" and what is not.


Posted By: topgearskin
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 10:51am
Texas, you speak the truth, brother.

Since when did manly= good?

Is that still a thing?

*turns off sex and the city DVD and punches someone*


Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 11:30am
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

"A place were we don't need a compass to find north, we can just feel it."



Perfect!

I've spent enough time in the woods to realize how quickly you can get turned around.  I wish I could always just depend on "feeling" north!  


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Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 12:02pm
It's official, the New York Times calls beards and not shaving a trend. Does that mean it's time to break out those razors?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/09/fashion/the-brooklyn-beard-goes-mainstream.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=ST_TBB_20140109&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1388552400000&bicmet=1420088400000&_r=0


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 12:27pm
Originally posted by dkatz dkatz wrote:

Hollows, I want to hug/high-five you for that. Couldn't agree more and have had a lifelong frustration with the bullshit about what is "manly" and what is not.

Does this mean you're going to Inspiration?


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I make things out of http://www.hollowsleather.com" rel="nofollow - leather .


Posted By: rnrswitch
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 2:23pm
I think posting on the Internet about denim, fit, price points, is as manly as it gets.

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Too bad your momma's a bitch, cuz I totally coulda been your daddy.


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 4:43pm
Creased Jeans, it's gonna happen.

After that, pleated denim chinos.






Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by Bob Dale Bob Dale wrote:

Creased Jeans, it's gonna happen.

After that, pleated denim chinos.

Get behind me, Satan!


Posted By: robroy
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2014 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by rnrswitch rnrswitch wrote:

I think posting on the Internet about denim, fit, price points, is as manly as it gets.


Oof. That hurt.


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2014 at 2:07am
Apparently. 'tappered' jeans are all the rage on Sufu so perhaps they'll catch on here next although I'm not sure what they are!


Posted By: rustbucket
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2014 at 3:39am
Don't know about 'tappered', but i did spot some 'duck tapped' jeans
http://www.duckbrand.com/index.php/duck-tape-club/ducktivities/clothes/duck-tapped-skinny-jeans" rel="nofollow - http://www.duckbrand.com/index.php/duck-tape-club/ducktivities/clothes/duck-tapped-skinny-jeans


Posted By: Mr Black
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2014 at 3:43am
Oh.....


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www.sidewinderapparel.co.uk


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2014 at 8:12am
On a serious note, I'd like to see more 1910s-1930s style outdoors/hunting gear.  There's been a good amount of this stuff, particularly in Freewheelers' "Great Lakes" sub-brand, but there's a lot more than can be done.

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I make things out of http://www.hollowsleather.com" rel="nofollow - leather .


Posted By: dkatz
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2014 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by hollows hollows wrote:

Originally posted by dkatz dkatz wrote:

Hollows, I want to hug/high-five you for that. Couldn't agree more and have had a lifelong frustration with the bullshit about what is "manly" and what is not.

Does this mean you're going to Inspiration?

See you there!


Posted By: rnrswitch
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2014 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:

http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

when i watched this my head nearly popped off with annoyance—the footage is fine, but does have that vsco film grade, but the narration makes me want to punch a person straight in the face.

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MEN WHO BORROWED MOTORCYCLES TO GO ON A DIRT BIKE RIDE IN THE WOODS. YOUR MEALS WERE CATERED AND YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT REAL MEN HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FUCKING YEARS.

End rant. I promise.

Also I need to buy my flight n stuff if I'm gonna make it to LA.




Holy crap. I just watched this.   Halfway speechless.

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Too bad your momma's a bitch, cuz I totally coulda been your daddy.


Posted By: spork141
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2014 at 3:44am
Originally posted by proulxsie proulxsie wrote:

for anyone wants a video that sums up what 'kinfauxlk' means to me:

http://vimeo.com/55420992" rel="nofollow - http://vimeo.com/55420992

when i watched this my head nearly popped off with annoyance—the footage is fine, but does have that vsco film grade, but the narration makes me want to punch a person straight in the face.

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MEN WHO BORROWED MOTORCYCLES TO GO ON A DIRT BIKE RIDE IN THE WOODS. YOUR MEALS WERE CATERED AND YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT REAL MEN HAVE BEEN DOING FOR FUCKING YEARS.

End rant. I promise.

Also I need to buy my flight n stuff if I'm gonna make it to LA.

In fairness, i think we have to point out that its the video itself, not nessisarily the participants, who is enraging us. Who knows who these dudes were and if they bought into this entire "masculinity adventure." The wilderness collective website says its run by some Canadian entrepreneur living in LA. Nothing screams "man" than the word "entrepreneur"

That being said I think were all a little sick with the whole "this is what it is to be a man" thing. I heard that enough from the (american) football jocks growing up in high school, and now all those people are struggling to be funny at posting pics on facebook with their double chins and beer belies.

I work in an office in the fashion world using web development. My balls have grown so big with masculinity that its tough to sit. And i need tough denim to do it in too! Like a man does!




Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2014 at 3:59am
I feel equally if not more enraged by the participants.

Edit- Maybe i should explain... I feel sympathy for the participants of documentaries who are too stupid to understand that they are being taken advantage of by documentary makers who have their own agenda's . These dicks are fully compos mentis and probably feel more than happy with the way they were portrayed in this film. But i could only bear to watch the first 2mins.



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