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Topic: Bandanas
Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Subject: Bandanas
Date Posted: 29 Feb 2012 at 3:21pm
How do/did they use to make bandanas?   Did they bleach the design in the fabric?   Anyone know?

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Posted By: ThisSunday
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 6:33pm
^I'm curious about this to. I'm assuming discharge printing was used frequently


Posted By: illumin8em
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 2:05pm
a bleed through process?


Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 2:29pm
Isn't discharge printing a newer process? 

I think it would work today but not for the true white look of an old vintage bandana...




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Posted By: ThisSunday
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 3:49pm
Wiki says discharge printing was fashionable in the 19th century but I'm not sure how accurate that is.


Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 10:07pm
Discharge printing is what Stifel used to make Wabash stripe (and many other patterns) of white on indigo.  The process is definitely old.  Many  modern bandanas seem to be screen print color (one or two tones) on white material.  I'm not sure what would have been typical on older examples.


Posted By: ThisSunday
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 5:16pm
I hope Christophe doesn't mind me posting this here but it seems appropriate




Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 10:36am
wow, that looked easy...  I guess he silk screened the image with the discharge ink then instead of an oven just ironed it... 




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Posted By: Azzaspec
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2012 at 2:03pm
So I'm familiar with the Elephant Bandana Book (just ordered 1 & 2) by Kazuhiro Hirata of Kapital but am wondering if anyone out there knows of any good websites with valuable information on bandanas. Recently I've been hitting up a lot of the thrift/vintage stores in San Francisco and snatching up a bunch of Elephant Brand and Tiger Brand bandanas but honestly I don't know that much about them and would really like to learn more. Any insight?


Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 6:18pm
Never heard of them.  Are they vintage or modern?  I don't think I've ever seen a bandana associated with a particular brand (other than using the bandanna to advertise a brand).


Posted By: nick
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 4:35pm
A ton of Elephant bandanas on ebay which are listed as vintage and look it too. Plenty of OshKhosh bandanas with logos aplenty.


Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 12:07am
Originally posted by nick nick wrote:

A ton of Elephant bandanas on ebay which are listed as vintage and look it too. Plenty of OshKhosh bandanas with logos aplenty.
 
Thanks for the heads up - Tempting Tongue


Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 11:41am
Quite like this bit of Americana currently on the bay  Smile
 
Edit: Just won it on ebay ..... doh!


Posted By: bandit
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 11:01pm
Blue Blanket Bandana. 









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Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 12:08am
"Blue Blanket Bandana."
 
Looks good, I think I will have to start to wear a bandanna. Cool



Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 12:53am
Just to crank this thread up a bit here are some pics of bandannas off the bay......... Smile
Mods, trust is not too many!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: danisdead
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 3:38pm
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/sylffsyl/16529113592/1/tumblr_lyf4930CKT1r7m94s" rel="nofollow">Thrifted goods
This was a 25 cent thrift find


Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2012 at 12:19pm
"This was a 25 cent thrift find"  
Nice find, can you get me one.......... LOL


Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 12:58pm
Some bandannas in this Japanese Magazine which may be of interest.
 


Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 5:03am
The Bandanna Boys at a charity gig last Saturday.
Starting to wear a bandanna a bit more, for that extra, uhhhh ....... hum .. flair............ LOL
 
 


Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 10:27am
Bandanna=good flair.  Casio watch=...     we'll just leave that one alone.
 
Jacket is looking great.


Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 10:54am
Originally posted by Joseph Hill Joseph Hill wrote:

Bandanna=good flair.  Casio watch=...     we'll just leave that one alone.
 
Jacket is looking great.
 
Dang!! That casio watch was showing. LOL   Must find something more retro.
 
Thanks for the comment on the jacket, it is opening up a bit now since I got it from Mr Randal recently, NWOT.
 
I think it is actually is starting to look like an old jacket now.  So how did LVC do that?
 
 


Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:43am


Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 2:14am
Now I know what all those funny letters are on my  vintage bandanna - ranch brands.
I told some one here in the UK that they were Indian markings, doh!


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 2:49am
The Elephant Brand was a NYC based company that sorta disappeared in the 70's they basically did all the discharge printing for bandanas. There are a few more companies (factories) but there isn't much information on them because they didn't use a specific logo or brand name. I am doing research part time in tracking down and trying to put a history of the bandana together. Needless to say it is really complicated.  Red bandanas were the first color, then came the synthesized indigo (blue) color. 


Posted By: Nonriveted
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 11:26am
While I was in the midst of denim and mill research for the new book I ran across this definition of bandanas in an old book I am reading, hope it helps...........







Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 12:37pm
now that is what I was looking for!  Thanks!

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Posted By: Nonriveted
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 12:52pm
Awesome, i will post anything else that I can find from the old dictionaries.....


Posted By: Happy Hooligan
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 12:55pm
just found this...





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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 4:38pm
Yeah they would use those discharge print presses on a sheet of 4 bandannas. I want to see one of these old presses with my own eyes to see how they used to work.


Posted By: flatpattern
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 5:22pm
Wow two thumbs up.  This is very interesting.  Thank you Nonriveted and Happy.  I wonder if any of these presses are still around/in use today?  I too would love to see how the grooved pattern plates work.  

I did some discharge printing in school but we silk screened the chemical on to the fabric then put it into a big heating press to activate it.  Similar to the video showing Mister Freedom ironing the image of the head.


Posted By: badseed
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 6:54pm
Hey Mr Sunday

Was this MF Bandana for sale??

Thanks

Sam


Posted By: ThisSunday
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by badseed badseed wrote:

Hey Mr Sunday

Was this MF Bandana for sale??

Thanks

Sam

If you're talking about the youtube clip I posted, I'm not sure. There were probably a few made for the store. Our fellow denimbros in the LA area may be able to fill us in on the store exclusives. The bandana I posted recently in the MF thread was a Rugged Museum exclusive from years ago 


Posted By: badseed
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 5:19pm
Should have been a little clearer,yeah i meant the youtube clip

i was in Japan when the Rugged Museum one was in the store


Posted By: fardin
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 11:25pm
badseed the mf one was actually sold as silk skarfs, and was part of the apache collection. it cam in blue white and red, and was in the sugarcane catalog, one could order ti in japan, and with mister freedom in la, i got all three

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Posted By: ThisSunday
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2012 at 3:31pm
Figured I'd post a pic

MF bandana & Kapital woggle




Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2012 at 1:16pm
Jack/Knife bandana used on the Lost Horse Mine trail in Joshua Tree





Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2012 at 1:18pm
A bandana makes a handy coaster 



Posted By: denimdart
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 11:48pm
I have been getting into vintage bandannas recently so I have been tracking any ebay offerings.
 
This is the most expensive one I have come across.
 
Vintage Carhartt Bandana, Red.  Current bid $255 ........ Cool!
 
Edit, bid now up to $349!
 
Link to auction  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Carhartt-Bandana-Red-Handkerchief-/221044978052?pt=US_Handkerchiefs&hash=item33774eb184ere" rel="nofollow - here


Posted By: Jeaux
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 8:54pm
Hello, anybody know the story behind RRL and elephant brand apparent collab?  I noticed all my RRL bandanas are co-branded with the elephant brand..  Love the site BTW!
 


Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2012 at 7:47am
Sorry, but I'd have to guess that's another total rip off by RRL....speaking of vintage bandanas, check out these suckas:

http://www.freepeople.com/vintage-colorfast-bandanas-24142101/" rel="nofollow - http://www.freepeople.com/vintage-colorfast-bandanas-24142101/


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Posted By: Jeaux
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2012 at 3:41pm
You're probably right, but how can they get away with that?!  I really like the mulitcolor bandanas in your link!  A little rich for my blood, but good inspiration for my fleamarket hunt this weekend! 


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2012 at 8:56pm
vintage


Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 9:25am
Both are hittin' it.  But that green one is defineitely alllll gravy!


Posted By: skyrunner
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 11:57am
 
 
given to me by a maid in the south of france in the late 80s,  i asked her where she brought it from and she just gave it to me, been with me eversince the quality of this is far superior compared to my new lvc one.
 


Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 12:22pm
$7 a pop from Kaufmann
http://store.kaufmann-mercantile.com/collections/new-items/products/stonewashed-handkerchiefs" rel="nofollow - http://store.kaufmann-mercantile.com/collections/new-items/products/stonewashed-handkerchiefs


Posted By: Jeaux
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 1:50pm
really digging that green and red one too!  The stonewashed Hav-a-hank's at kaufmann seem reasonable at $7.   


Posted By: skyrunner
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 1:54pm
the indigo one at kaufmann is really nice, and for $7 a pop i paid almost ten times that amount for one of the new lvc onesUnhappy.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 4:41am
Here is the remnants of my trunk-down collection. 

But the best link for vintage bandanas is http://discharge-style.blogspot.de/" rel="nofollow - here . 


Posted By: indigoeagle
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 7:13am
Does anyone have good instructions on how to fold and knot bandanas?


Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2012 at 8:18am
Originally posted by hollows hollows wrote:

vintage
Love the one on the left.


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2012 at 4:17pm
Hey all, found this thread through google image search (i've been collecting elephant/tower bandanas for a home project) and ended up making a desktop background from one of the images posted... figured you may be interested.

http://cl.ly/image/0l2h3t0A380b to download

2400 x 1500




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Posted By: holdyourground
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2012 at 10:28pm
Recently found this piece of eight uncut bandanas. They're only printed on one side, so I don't think thing the piece is too old, but its still looks pretty neat covering the top of the futon.


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Posted By: Griemersma
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2013 at 6:16am
My first post here. Very cool stuff. Here's a Carhartt I found in a dresser drawer at the local antique mall. Paid $2 for it. Ended up selling it on eBay for over $300. The winning bidder seemed to be somehow connected with the J Crew company. Anyhow, here's some pix from back when I had a blog:

http://dynamicsymmetry-griemers.blogspot.com/2010/07/vintage-hamilton-carhartt-bandanna.html?m=1" rel="nofollow - http://dynamicsymmetry-griemers.blogspot.com/2010/07/vintage-hamilton-carhartt-bandanna.html?m=1

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Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2013 at 7:19pm
^^^

Pretty rad -- great story.


Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 6:49am
Originally posted by holdyourground holdyourground wrote:

Recently found this piece of eight uncut bandanas. They're only printed on one side, so I don't think thing the piece is too old, but its still looks pretty neat covering the top of the futon.
Even if it isn't really old  it's a really cool piece to have, good score.


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2013 at 7:53am
Did some poking around and I'm nearly positive this is the record of the original elephant brand trademark!

http://trademarks.justia.com/715/42/n-a-71542540.html

Neat!


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Posted By: BMH
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2013 at 8:44am
Hollows, those two are amazing ...where'd you find those ?


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2013 at 10:10am
eBay finds!  They were reasonably priced, too, which is definitely not normal for vintage bandanas on eBay.

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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2013 at 12:44am




Bandit found this -sticking out of my rich ore vein, I had struck months before. This isnt the first time that I've walked away from my spot.....To comeback months later and find a part of the ground slipped down exposing something I missed.... Thank goodness Bandit and Nonriveted found this before someone else did....This bandana was thrown away sometime in 1880, so it probably dates to the 1870's




Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2013 at 3:39am
Wow, great stuff!


Posted By: setterman
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2013 at 7:06am
That is gorgeous!

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Date Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 7:42am




















Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2013 at 3:15pm


Nothing too sacred -- found this locally a week or so ago.


Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 6:00am
archival has some kerchiefs 
http://archivalclothing.myshopify.com/products/pocket-kerchiefs" rel="nofollow - http://archivalclothing.myshopify.com/products/pocket-kerchiefs


Posted By: *lefty*
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2013 at 10:45am







I keep them all in my dick bag. 





Posted By: Erikx
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2013 at 4:29pm
great collections!


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 9:40am

picked these guys up on my recent travels... super soft and broken in, and only $20 a piece! (I've never seen either one on ebay for less than that!)


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Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 1:42pm
The Wrangler ones go for over 20$ ?!?! I saw like 5 in Lincoln,NE last year and thought 3$ a piece was ridiculous (I have never paid more than about 50 cents for the handful i've found).

Edit -- that sounded shitty.  I suck w/ words.  I didn't mean to say you overpaid, what I meant was that I wished I'd have known they were desirable/sought after. 




Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 6:55pm
I've been eyeing the blue one for a while and haven't found it for less than that.... ah well.

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Posted By: badseed
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 4:02pm
the "dick" bag is awesome!!

Originally posted by *lefty* *lefty* wrote:








I keep them all in my dick bag. 





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Posted By: Jelthead
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 4:40pm
Here's one of my favorites.
http://s12.photobucket.com/user/13thBS/media/band.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 4:55pm
^ someone with photoshop / printing skills needs to get busy and make us some denim brotherhood bandanas!


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 5:02pm
What makes you think someone isn't working on that already? :)

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Posted By: attackwithstones
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 5:58pm
Fuck yeah! Incorporate a printed chain stitch


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Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by hollows hollows wrote:

What makes you think someone isn't working on that already? :)


Big smile


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 6:49pm


Found one this afternoon locally.  The print isn't as elaborate as some of the others posted, but  I was pleased.


Posted By: Left Field NYC
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2013 at 9:22pm
The Carolina Manufacturing Company will do pigment rotary printed bandannas for 2500 pieces if anyone wants to do custom non-screenprinted bandannas made in America. I would have used them but needed to print on heavier fabric for my pocketing.


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2013 at 5:45am
oh man that railroad brotherhood one is epic!

Bob Dale, are you gonna make good on your bandana supplier offer?! ;)  Still looking for many more blue elephant bandanas for my project.  Found a good dude on my road trip who has a great supply (supplies all of the ones to RRL/Doug B) who offered to give me less rare ones for $20/piece.  But I know you have the good stuff right there at home in ole OKC! Embarrassed


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2013 at 6:20am
John Lofgren ripped that Railroad Brotherhood off hard from the original didn't they?!


Posted By: Denimetc
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2013 at 1:29pm
Here are mine:

White is LVC, Blue a modern one from Papillon Project and OshKosh is from the 90's.



These are all Wrangler Blue Bell repros, but nevertheless well made and the smaller ones have nice handmade feel to them.






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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2014 at 11:19pm
Anyone have pictures of bandannas they possess that may be from the 1800's, or 1900 to 1930?


Posted By: rnrswitch
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 6:55am
Hint hint nudge nudge. Cough cough. Who on this board could possibly have turn of the century hand kerchiefs. Hmm.

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Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 7:28am
Jon, have you tried finding pages from early Sears catalogs?  I feel like I've seen some catalog scans from the 20s-30s that showed mostly dotted-motif bandanas.

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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 7:38am
Thanks Hollows! Great Idea.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2014 at 9:02pm
I was involved with this project over the last month. I am sure most of you who love bandannas as much a I do would appreciate this place. Opens May 3rd. 

http://kapital.jp/2014/04/21/bandanna-museum/


Posted By: gnob
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2014 at 10:05pm
A Bandanna Museum, that is definitely gotta be a amazing project. Props to KH and yourself. 

Since I can't attend, I'll be patiently waiting for Elephant brand book 3.


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Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2014 at 10:10pm
Very Cool BA. Congrats. Hope to have a chance to check it out.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2014 at 1:54am
It will be a permanent installation so whenever you end up in Kojima definitely have a look. 


Posted By: redragon
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2014 at 10:52am
^
Great project!
Not sure when I will ever swing by Kojima, but its def on the list to go if it ever happend.


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2014 at 1:20pm
Ahhh that looks awesome! Wish you guys could do a pop up in Soho, NYC ;)

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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 6:14am
Met a few Japanese bandanna maniacs over the weekend. Some of these guys have some serious collections... I will say one thing, it definitely helps to have a good understanding of the history to explain to these guys why some of these things are rare. Really want to start working on the bandanna book 3 English version, with a nice historical timeline theme. 


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 5:16am
My Camel mark Fast Color 


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 30 May 2014 at 7:15am
Neat one from eBay.  I missed the end of the auction, but it probably went for more than I should bid anyway:




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Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2014 at 1:01pm
Newest acquisition, these are easily my favorite in the collection:






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Posted By: swallowtail
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2014 at 2:02pm
beautiful shade hollows, are they vintage?


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2014 at 2:31pm
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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2014 at 4:29am
Aren't those duplex poly-cotton Hollows?


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2014 at 6:55am
I think they're all cotton, but I'm not sure.  I tried burning a frayed thread right now and it behaved like cotton.  When does poly-cotton blend appear in the timeline?

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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2014 at 4:59pm
Usually bandannas from 1950's and on will be properly labeled as poly-cotton. Not sure if they used it before that. 



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