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Topic: Corduroy, the fabric of kings
Posted By: rootytoottoot
Subject: Corduroy, the fabric of kings
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 11:43am
I haven't seen a thread about this yet, but.. anyone else into vintage corduroy?  It certainly has a long, tumultuous (i.e., the 1970s)  history, but it definitely has a place of honor in 19th century workwear/hunting gear, a subject dear to many of our hearts.

I notice that it is much harder to find a cool pair of repro workwear cords than say, a pair of ducks.  I recently saw corduroy pop up in Christophe's Men of the Frontier line.

Does anyone here know of any companies producing quality corduroy items?  Any favorite pieces from the near past?  I dig corduroy 100%







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Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 11:50am
rtt-did you see the jacket that matches those pants..badass. I have always liked corduroy, but don't know much of it's history, although I like many of the repro pieces I've seen.
The jacket: http://freewheelers.co.jp/blog/archives/3930


Posted By: rootytoottoot
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 12:12pm
Yes, that jacket is KILLLERRRR


Posted By: rootytoottoot
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 12:13pm
I remember seeing a guy once who had a tan, corduroy version of the Levis Type I jacket (or at least thats what I THOUGHT I saw..)  Never seen it since.  Am I imagining things?  I would love to have one


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 1:05pm
that jacket is killer!

  I am unfamiliar with whether a true vintage version exists , I wonder if Levis Red or Made and Crafted made what you saw?  I know in years past M&C has done several takes on the type 1 in non-traditional materials.

 

This is a bit of a mash-up, can't tell if its 'no wale' cord.  Obviously the zipper is not historically accurate but maybe this was something kind of like what you saw?

There was a sack coat too -- can't remember if it was cord or just a sort of cotton drill.





Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by rootytoottoot rootytoottoot wrote:

I remember seeing a guy once who had a tan, corduroy version of the Levis Type I jacket (or at least thats what I THOUGHT I saw..)  Never seen it since.  Am I imagining things?  I would love to have one


I saw one of those on ebay about 6 months ago. I remember it appearing just as you described but also had some subtlle bomber stylings to it... if i remember correctly anyway. I remember it being slightly darker than what I would call tan.  Anyhow, it was listed as a 1930s levis corduroy jacket.  I would have bid on it but it was a size too small for me. I think the auction ended without bids. It was hard to tell if it was authentic or not, i assume a lot of people passed on it solely based on skepticism.


Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 2:52pm
Originally posted by rootytoottoot rootytoottoot wrote:

I haven't seen a thread about this yet, but.. anyone else into vintage corduroy?  It certainly has a long, tumultuous (i.e., the 1970s)  history, but it definitely has a place of honor in 19th century workwear/hunting gear, a subject dear to many of our hearts.

I notice that it is much harder to find a cool pair of repro workwear cords than say, a pair of ducks.  I recently saw corduroy pop up in Christophe's Men of the Frontier line.

Does anyone here know of any companies producing quality corduroy items?  Any favorite pieces from the near past?  I dig corduroy 100%






Corduroy is the vintage fabric that is most sentimental to me. I think maybe because I got a lot of hand me down cord jackets from my dad, who wore them as a teen in the 50s.  They are far and away my favorite, most precious pieces. Nothing like navy blue cord on cord.  I'm out of country and away from my stuff til late april, but I will work on posting some of these pieces when I get home


Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 2:58pm
^ oh yeah, and my favorite cords of recent are Beams + cropped cord trousers which were sold at union made last season (not anymore though.) I got myself a pair of those in navy blue during the end of season sale. they came in sizes small, medium, and large... each spanning the usual run of waist sizes and have side cinches to cinch down to your specific size. They came significantly cropped and cuffed and in my opinion, have a great fit.  

I also have kept my eye on the cinch back cords that aero is reproducing and/or stocks:

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=681

I haven't got any, but at some point I'd like to get a pair in moss green and possibly navy blue too.


Posted By: rootytoottoot
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 3:13pm
Originally posted by Bob Dale Bob Dale wrote:

that jacket is killer!

  I am unfamiliar with whether a true vintage version exists , I wonder if Levis Red or Made and Crafted made what you saw?  I know in years past M&C has done several takes on the type 1 in non-traditional materials.

 

This is a bit of a mash-up, can't tell if its 'no wale' cord.  Obviously the zipper is not historically accurate but maybe this was something kind of like what you saw?

There was a sack coat too -- can't remember if it was cord or just a sort of cotton drill.




Robbie, I'm almost positive this wasn't what I saw... what I saw had a much shorter profile, and only had one pocket.  This is interesting, but I'm ALMOST positive it's not the same jacket.  I actually casually know the guy who was wearing it,  I should try to get his number and ask (though that's a weird, random reason to call someone out of the blue!)


Posted By: rootytoottoot
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by maxamillionmose maxamillionmose wrote:

^ oh yeah, and my favorite cords of recent are Beams + cropped cord trousers which were sold at union made last season (not anymore though.) I got myself a pair of those in navy blue during the end of season sale. they came in sizes small, medium, and large... each spanning the usual run of waist sizes and have side cinches to cinch down to your specific size. They came significantly cropped and cuffed and in my opinion, have a great fit.  

I also have kept my eye on the cinch back cords that aero is reproducing and/or stocks:

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=681

I haven't got any, but at some point I'd like to get a pair in moss green and possibly navy blue too.

Thanks for that!  and also PLEASE DO post pics of your "sentimental cord collection"!!!  Can't wait


Posted By: Majormajor
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 5:54pm
Here's my Lee 100J Westerner (no MR) in tan Cord
 


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 7:46pm
Workers just announced an upcoming corduroy vest:


http://eworkers.blogspot.com/2013/03/maple-leaf-vest-coming-this-fall.html" rel="nofollow - http://eworkers.blogspot.com/2013/03/maple-leaf-vest-coming-this-fall.html


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Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 8:02pm
That's classy and very well done. Their spring line has a lot of really nice items too.


Posted By: Snake
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2013 at 8:17pm
Adjustable Costume corduroy jacket and trouser
 
 
  http://www.thewildone.jp/item/ADJUSTABLECOSTUME_theWILDONE-SP_BlackCorduroy/" rel="nofollow - http://www.thewildone.jp/item/ADJUSTABLECOSTUME_theWILDONE-SP_BlackCorduroy/
 
 
  http://www.thewildone.jp/item/adjustablecostume-41type-trousers_black-corduroy_thewildone-SP/" rel="nofollow - http://www.thewildone.jp/item/adjustablecostume-41type-trousers_black-corduroy_thewildone-SP/
 


Posted By: rootytoottoot
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 7:23am


Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 8:19am
Originally posted by rootytoottoot rootytoottoot wrote:



Hah! funny that you posted this ffa jacket. I own it!  Well actually I bought it for my gal.  She's the proud owner.


Posted By: rootytoottoot
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 8:42am
I was watching that on ebay... The arrow pockets are KILLER!  I was in FFA, but don't have my jacket. Regrets


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 12:08pm
you own that?!

We're gonna need some details, especially of the back !


Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 3:20pm
Yeah. I'm out of the country til late April, but I'll try to remember to post it when we're settled in at home. The back is just about the same as any other FFA jacket you've seen except the center patch is a bit larger and the image is slightly more naive...... The figure is anyway. The embroidery says Nebraska , Albion or something like that, I forget. Maybe rootytoottoot has more pictures from the auction.

I collect FFA jackets. So this was a must have. It's the first I've seen with this early design (30s to mid 40s. Switched up to the common design in 43 if I remember correctly)

I've seen another one on eBay from the 30s that looked like it was buried for 100 years. I don't think anyone went for it. The auction was a buy t now at over 3000 bucks. Pretty ridiculous.

I saw another one several months ago that I regret not going for. It was the same as this except it was a regular cotton with a wool felt looking texture instead of the corduroy we're used to seeing. Maybe this was a variation on the early designs before they committed to one official uniform design. It's probably pretty special. Auction ended at 165 bucks or so. Still kicking my self on the ass for passing it up.


Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 3:23pm
^ edit: it's the first I've seen.... In that good of a condition. It is almost perfect. These aren't too rare. I see one to two pop up online per year.


Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2013 at 11:13am
This isn't the jacket I got for my gal, this is the jacket that was on ebay a couple years ago. The seller wanted 3000 bucks plus for it. ridiculous. this is most likely pre 1933, before the ffa settled on a uniformly official design for their jacket.s  Apparently there were brown and black ones as well as blue ones prior to 1933. this is the only brown one I've seen in circulation.


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Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 6:57am
I have ogled this Himel Brothers Jacket for a while. 

collar detail

The photos were taken from David Himels blog, hope he doesn't mind.


Posted By: Serge Denime
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 12:26pm
This was in my eBay recommendations today seems a crazy low price considering the jacket in your post
Thought someone may like to pick it up as they don't ship to UK and to small for me
111032534780 is the item no. To put into eBay search


Posted By: maxamillionmose
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 1:35pm
Originally posted by Serge Denime Serge Denime wrote:

This was in my eBay recommendations today seems a crazy low price considering the jacket in your post
Thought someone may like to pick it up as they don't ship to UK and to small for me
111032534780 is the item no. To put into eBay search


thanks for the heads up, but this style of ffa jacket is a dime a dozen.  Even if it's actually from the 50s (there is really no way to tell apart the jackets from the 50s and 60s as most were producted by the same manufacturer and they have the same tag.  You can tell the 40s jackets in this style apart by the difference in the tag and a also sometimes by a difference in the color and the wieght/density of the fabric.

I'm sure you could find yourself one of these for less than $25 USD from a seller that will ship it the UK if you just check ebay regularly.


Posted By: Serge Denime
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 1:47pm
Thanks for your reply, They would be much more rare here in England was just strange to find in my recommendations after looking at the thread


Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2013 at 6:40am
You may also want to check etsy, I've seen them fairly cheap there as well.


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2013 at 7:09am
Serge Denime -- I'd be happy to keep my eyes peeled for an FFA jacket for you, as these guys have mentioned they're relatively common and as a result reasonably priced.  Don't pay inflated ebay/etsy  prices, let me help you out. -- shoot me a PM with specifics and I'd be happy to find one at a more reasonable price for you.


Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2013 at 10:37am
Originally posted by Bob Dale Bob Dale wrote:

Serge Denime -- I'd be happy to keep my eyes peeled for an FFA jacket for you, as these guys have mentioned they're relatively common and as a result reasonably priced.  Don't pay inflated ebay/etsy  prices, let me help you out. -- shoot me a PM with specifics and I'd be happy to find one at a more reasonable price for you.

An even better source! bros helping bros.Clap


Posted By: Serge Denime
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 7:52am
Bob thanks for the very kind offer, I'm sure i'll be getting back to you on that one.
Wanted to share this now it seems I've cracked how to post pics.

This is a jacket I picked up a year or so ago from Farah, I had no idea they'd started as a workwear manufacturer and always just associated them with Farah slacks something my dad would've worn but certainly not 'Dad Style'

The jacket was incredible quality and lined in Corduroy, something I'd not seen before. Each piece in the collection was ltd to 90 garments to celebrate their 90th year.

The other piece I was lucky enough to get was the chambray workshirt.

To jacket was to small for me and sold to a guy in Japan, before I'd heard of Denimbro





Has anyone seen/got any of the other pieces as this whole collection looks so good

hhttp://eightyfoureightyfive.com/2010/05/09/farahs-1920-collection/


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2013 at 1:17pm
Not as old, but nonetheless 
http://www.etsy.com/listing/112737656/vintage-ffa-jacket-in-blue-corduroy-from?ref=sr_gallery_38&ga_search_query=workwear+denim&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_page=3&ga_search_type=vintage" rel="nofollow - http://www.etsy.com/listing/112737656/vintage-ffa-jacket-in-blue-corduroy-from?ref=sr_gallery_38&ga_search_query=workwear+denim&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_page=3&ga_search_type=vintage

FFA on it too!


Posted By: hochelaga
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 12:02pm
Adolf Lafont workwear corduroy heritage jacket, vest and pants.France


Posted By: hochelaga
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 12:09pm
FHB German heritage workwear,corduroy jacket,vest and pants.


Posted By: hochelaga
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 12:11pm
Le Laboureur ,heritage workwear,France


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 12:29pm
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2011/0331/20110331__110401biz-spam1_300.jpg


Posted By: attackwithstones
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 2:33pm
Recommend me some nice chocolate brown Corduroy Trousers please.

and thank you!


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Posted By: hochelaga
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2017 at 2:39pm
sorry,i am new here ,obviously i don't know how this works,also pardon my english,i will try to unsubscibe.


Posted By: Mainwaring
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 6:08am
Spam, the fabric of kings?


Posted By: HP Sauce
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 6:26am
Before this thread went a bit sideways, I was going to post this link to Brisbane Moss's little history of "fustian" fabric production in the Yorkshire and Lancashire regions of Britain. 

I had stumbled across Brisbane Moss in my sewer's quest for high-quality and heavy-weight corduroy from which to fashion some nice fish-tail back trousers.  Sadly (but understandably), this factory caters to wholesalers exclusively. 

I tip my hat to a fine British heritage...

http://www.brisbanemoss.co.uk/fabrichistory.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.brisbanemoss.co.uk/fabrichistory.php


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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 7:52am
http://www.tailsandtheunexpected.com/clothing/fishtail-trousers.html" rel="nofollow - Tails and the Unexpected in Wales make their own fishtail trousers out of a quality 470gram corduroy. They used to sell vintage before tailoring their own garments.

They might be able to help you out with a bolt end of fabric.


Posted By: HP Sauce
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 10:42am
Thank you very much, Double O, they have some beautiful offerings and it's clear that they have gone straight to the best quality fabrics. 

I will also have to alert some of my male friends to their business. 


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Posted By: gonboogaloo
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by attackwithstones attackwithstones wrote:

Recommend me some nice chocolate brown Corduroy Trousers please.

and thank you!


Occasionally, Freewheelers put out corduroy trousers. What are you looking for exactly (cinch, high waist, etc).

And some of the best vintage corduroy i have ever seen belongs to this man: wilhelmzeppelin on instagram. He's a very dapper dresser.



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