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Topic: Tisarto Italian Bespoke Jeans
Posted By: Tisarto
Subject: Tisarto Italian Bespoke Jeans
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 8:12am



Replies:
Posted By: robroy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 11:03am
Finally, bespoke denim.


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 12:16pm
I have a serious gap in my 5 pocket jean collection!!

How can I learn more?


Posted By: Tisarto
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 12:59pm


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 4:05pm
Ohh wow, crowd sourced kickstarter denim. ALWAYS a great way to build up a brand !


Posted By: HerbRockwell
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 4:38pm
They are being sarcastic and making fun of you Tisarto


Posted By: julian-wolf
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 5:26pm
Now that the gig is up, something I’ve been wondering: How is it that folks like this end up on Denimbro of all places? Why not Superfuture or Styleforum or Reddit (okay, I guess many probably do also show up on Reddit), all of which are (a) orders of magnitude more active and (b) more broadly-accepting in their tastes? How do they even find out in the first place that this forum exists?


Posted By: robroy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by HerbRockwell HerbRockwell wrote:

They are being sarcastic and making fun of you Tisarto


Why herb? I have so little joy in my life. Why did you have to ruin this for me (us)?


Posted By: cungster
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 6:36pm
Jesus, that's a really slim pair of jeans. 


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 10:37pm
Here you go Tisarto fill this in and send it to one of the moderators

Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

- do you have any concerns about bullying? Do you feel dismissed or condescended to by any particular members with problematic frequency? No names or specifics need be mentioned.



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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 1:46am
odd, I hear the worlds smallest violin playing the theme from Moonlighting...


Posted By: Tisarto
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 3:50am
Oh wow guys! I’m really stunned with how much time and how little happiness you have in your lives if you enjoy so much bullying a girl with too skinny pair of jeans :D really impressive, you right I should sit on my couch do nothing, try nothing, help nobody just grab a beer, set anonymous nick and go surf internet to make myself a small pleasures. And if you are wondering why I’m here and you think it’s hard to find this group, that says even more about your ignorance. That was all classy, thank you, lesson learned ;)


Posted By: Broark
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 3:57am
I think it's just more about knowing your audience.
No offense but I'm 99% sure this does not appeal to the audience here.


Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 3:59am
^ now wasn't that a nicer way of saying it! Hug


Posted By: Tisarto
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 4:06am
Well now I know and I’m out I will not disturb/entertain the group with more posts. I’m based in Italy and don’t know American denim groups, I thought it was worth a try because I would really like to make this work as the people here are very engaged in this project.


Posted By: Mainwaring
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 4:10am
Tisarto stitching would be too well done for the beasts of this burrow.



Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 4:50am
Just remembering our instructions:


"... there is a very fine line between critique and bullying, and a healthy forum requires us to have SOME regard for the feelings of the person whose choices we're discussing, and it does no good to simply proclaim that anyone with hurt feelings is too sensitive. 


We don't want to hone our way to a sartotial monoculture any more than we already have. The criteria for a good post needn't be "would I wear this?" Variety is a very good thing.


Keep in mind that at any given time there are FAR more "lurkers" on the site than active members. 11 members vs 33 guests as of this writing. [Hollows writes this on 31.10.19 - today, 6 members, 35 guests and 10 search-bots - and I think the newest member may well be leaving now? or staying to learn about vintage American and amerikaji styles given the warm welcome?]

I do believe that the forum has a reputation for being elitist/snobbish, and that this reputation is not entirely undeserved. There tends to be little tolerance for deviations from our formula, and that scares off a lot of would-be contributors before they even sign up. The pool of regular posters is VERY small lately, and a little kindness could go a long way towards promoting growth and renewed interest.

It feels ridiculous to ask a group of (mostly) middle aged (mostly) men to exercise basic kindness, but the forum dies without that, regardless of storage limits. Do your best to keep the criticism constructive, and if someone calls you an asshole, resist the urge to feel like they just don't understand your charming ways. It might be both."




Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 4:57am
Originally posted by Tisarto Tisarto wrote:

Well now I know and I’m out I will not disturb/entertain the group with more posts. I’m based in Italy and don’t know American denim groups, I thought it was worth a try because I would really like to make this work as the people here are very engaged in this project.

before you leave do have a look at these threads, they may give you an idea of the specificity of this place:

https://www.denimbro.com/denimbro-quarterly_topic4245.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.denimbro.com/denimbro-quarterly_topic4245.html
https://www.denimbro.com/levi-strauss-1870s-to-1960s_topic12.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.denimbro.com/levi-strauss-1870s-to-1960s_topic12.html
https://www.denimbro.com/old-work-wear-photos_topic19.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.denimbro.com/old-work-wear-photos_topic19.html
https://www.denimbro.com/general-work-wear-research_topic20.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.denimbro.com/general-work-wear-research_topic20.html

hope that helps with your project




Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 4:59am
Originally posted by bartlebyyphonics bartlebyyphonics wrote:

Just remembering our instructions:


"... there is a very fine line between critique and bullying, and a healthy forum requires us to have SOME regard for the feelings of the person whose choices we're discussing, and it does no good to simply proclaim that anyone with hurt feelings is too sensitive. 


We don't want to hone our way to a sartotial monoculture any more than we already have. The criteria for a good post needn't be "would I wear this?" Variety is a very good thing.


Keep in mind that at any given time there are FAR more "lurkers" on the site than active members. 11 members vs 33 guests as of this writing. [Hollows writes this on 31.10.19 - today, 6 members, 35 guests and 10 search-bots - and I think the newest member may well be leaving now? or staying to learn about vintage American and amerikaji styles given the warm welcome?]

I do believe that the forum has a reputation for being elitist/snobbish, and that this reputation is not entirely undeserved. There tends to be little tolerance for deviations from our formula, and that scares off a lot of would-be contributors before they even sign up. The pool of regular posters is VERY small lately, and a little kindness could go a long way towards promoting growth and renewed interest.

It feels ridiculous to ask a group of (mostly) middle aged (mostly) men to exercise basic kindness, but the forum dies without that, regardless of storage limits. Do your best to keep the criticism constructive, and if someone calls you an asshole, resist the urge to feel like they just don't understand your charming ways. It might be both."



I think that^ was only directed at some of us, not all of us.


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Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 5:01am
instructions for one must be instructions for all surely?
[I am Spartacus] Wink


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 5:14am
Originally posted by bartlebyyphonics bartlebyyphonics wrote:

instructions for one must be instructions for all surely?
[I am Spartacus] Wink


Oh Bartles, i find your childlike naivety so charming Heart



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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 5:21am
It looks like our newest forum member is outta here.. i think she can leave with her head held high.


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Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 5:42am
Well I do hope that there are some posts about the LVC 701 within the forum that she / Tisarto can find to help with any potential research for developing women's cuts moving forward: I think the only one I can remember is posted by yourself Double 0... 

Tisarto: if you are listening and researching vintage cuts [which fwiw is what this site/forum is mostly interested in and knowledgable about]: a modern deviation is something like this: the Levis made and crafted barrel jean is a decent high-rise wide leg cut worth pursuing [emulating in your design] for women who don't want entirely tight denim... [somewhere near a true vintage cut, but with modifications ...]


Posted By: Blood&Thunder
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 6:53am
Originally posted by bartlebyyphonics bartlebyyphonics wrote:

Just remembering our instructions:


"... there is a very fine line between critique and bullying, and a healthy forum requires us to have SOME regard for the feelings of the person whose choices we're discussing, and it does no good to simply proclaim that anyone with hurt feelings is too sensitive. 


We don't want to hone our way to a sartotial monoculture any more than we already have. The criteria for a good post needn't be "would I wear this?" Variety is a very good thing.


Keep in mind that at any given time there are FAR more "lurkers" on the site than active members. 11 members vs 33 guests as of this writing. [Hollows writes this on 31.10.19 - today, 6 members, 35 guests and 10 search-bots - and I think the newest member may well be leaving now? or staying to learn about vintage American and amerikaji styles given the warm welcome?]

I do believe that the forum has a reputation for being elitist/snobbish, and that this reputation is not entirely undeserved. There tends to be little tolerance for deviations from our formula, and that scares off a lot of would-be contributors before they even sign up. The pool of regular posters is VERY small lately, and a little kindness could go a long way towards promoting growth and renewed interest.

It feels ridiculous to ask a group of (mostly) middle aged (mostly) men to exercise basic kindness, but the forum dies without that, regardless of storage limits. Do your best to keep the criticism constructive, and if someone calls you an asshole, resist the urge to feel like they just don't understand your charming ways. It might be both."



Well said Bartleby 


Posted By: robroy
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 7:24am
While I’m not a shoes off household I do appreciate it when people ask. And furthermore; it’s very rude when a sales person invites themselves in and begins their pitch.
If future helens read this, please introduce yourself, let us know a little about yourself. Maybe introduce the topic by asking a few questions and then soliciting opinions, instead of barging through the door with your sales bag and setting up shop in our living room.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 8:39am
We had a 'Shops' sub-forum for exactly this^ reason but somebody deleted it..








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Posted By: julian-wolf
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 8:44am
Originally posted by Blood&Thunder Blood&Thunder wrote:

Well said Bartleby 
I don't think Bartles was the one who said any of that…


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 9:12am
Originally posted by Tisarto Tisarto wrote:

Oh wow guys! I’m really stunned with how much time and how little happiness you have in your lives if you enjoy so much bullying a girl with too skinny pair of jeans :D really impressive, you right I should sit on my couch do nothing, try nothing, help nobody just grab a beer, set anonymous nick and go surf internet to make myself a small pleasures. And if you are wondering why I’m here and you think it’s hard to find this group, that says even more about your ignorance. That was all classy, thank you, lesson learned ;)

This doesn’t really merit a response, but going on the assumption that you were serious in this attempt, I’ll make a few points.

Advertising is ubiquitous on the internet- it’s hard to do anything online or, increasingly off, without feeling observed and marketed to, and as William Gibson said in Pattern Recognition, the slickness and pervasiveness of this begins to make you question every interaction you have. (Poorly paraphrased)

Given this environment, if you want to market to a group you need to do your homework. Know your audience, speak in their language and tone, make sure they are the right target for your product in the first place.

If you can’t be bothered to do that basic work, maybe this isn’t the job for you. Storming off in a huff, complaining of bullying, and mentioning you are a girl are all easy reactions that try, but fail, to deflect blame for your ill-preparedness.
 You did receive a rude welcome, but you could learn from it.


Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 9:37am
Originally posted by julian-wolf julian-wolf wrote:

Originally posted by Blood&Thunder Blood&Thunder wrote:

Well said Bartleby 
I don't think Bartles was the one who said any of that…

quite: the gospel according to hollows...


Posted By: smoothsailor
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 11:59am
 Well said  mr randal.
it seems like we can edit post"s again.




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Posted By: smoothsailor
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by bartlebyyphonics bartlebyyphonics wrote:

Just remembering our instructions:


"... there is a very fine line between critique and bullying, and a healthy forum requires us to have SOME regard for the feelings of the person whose choices we're discussing, and it does no good to simply proclaim that anyone with hurt feelings is too sensitive. 


We don't want to hone our way to a sartotial monoculture any more than we already have. The criteria for a good post needn't be "would I wear this?" Variety is a very good thing.


Keep in mind that at any given time there are FAR more "lurkers" on the site than active members. 11 members vs 33 guests as of this writing. [Hollows writes this on 31.10.19 - today, 6 members, 35 guests and 10 search-bots - and I think the newest member may well be leaving now? or staying to learn about vintage American and amerikaji styles given the warm welcome?]

I do believe that the forum has a reputation for being elitist/snobbish, and that this reputation is not entirely undeserved. There tends to be little tolerance for deviations from our formula, and that scares off a lot of would-be contributors before they even sign up. The pool of regular posters is VERY small lately, and a little kindness could go a long way towards promoting growth and renewed interest.

It feels ridiculous to ask a group of (mostly) middle aged (mostly) men to exercise basic kindness, but the forum dies without that, regardless of storage limits. Do your best to keep the criticism constructive, and if someone calls you an asshole, resist the urge to feel like they just don't understand your charming ways. It might be both."




I "lurk". at my home laptop I'm logged in. During the  day I lurk on my phone, I'm sure there are more like me


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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 12:35pm
I’m not sure this is saying anything?
But I’m willing to guess, that a lot of guests, are members not signed in?


Posted By: smoothsailor
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 12:54pm
There probably are a few who do that. I even lurk sitting next to my laptop. I don't want to fire it up all the time

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