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Topic: The Dapper Fisherman Thread
Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Subject: The Dapper Fisherman Thread
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2017 at 1:45pm
At this time of year if us northerners are not hand rearing kestrels we're often found fishing for pike. A much maligned fish for the match fishermen who complain that they snaffle up 'their' catch before they even get to land it. Not me, i love pike. In recent years fisheries have culled the larger fish but as it often goes when you fuck with mother nature there has been a boom in the smaller (jack) pike population, with pike being very territorial and cannibalistic the larger fish have always kept the population in check.

Im not a fan of sitting down all day at commercial fisheries surrounded with tackle for every conceivable eventuality, using electronic bite indicators to catch fish that have been caught over and over and over again i like to be mobile and take the bait to the fish, i can fit everything that two of us need in my field bag, but hey different strokes...

Here's some of our methods... my Okuma baitcaster and Westin rod, perfect for chucking out the larger lures.

Swimbaits

Mini-soul's Shimano baitrunner and Nash rod


While we're lure fishing i also chuck out a deadbait set up.
Buffer bead, deadbait pencil, 1oz lead free weight on a run-ring, bead, trace, and herring.
I get 4x herring from the fish mongers for 39p.

Failing the pencil here's some sliders, darts ect.. for windier/choppier conditions.

You need a rod with some backbone and a good reel for deadbaiting, this is essentially my carp gear but its perfect for the job.

A slice of auntie Al's Victoria sponge cake for lunch.

Mini-souls favourite catch, mainly because it bit my thumb  Disapprove (the blood is mine).. i popped kiddo's hook out no probs and noticed some very light line poking out of its mouth, pike tend to wait for course fisherman to hook smaller fish and pounce but their fine line is broken when they gobble down the fish..  i went in for a closer look to see what we could do to help it out and it bit my thumb... gratitude eh?

A selection of de-hooking tools and a nice comfy unhooking mat (i made this mat from an old camping roll mat)
Fishing for me has always been a nice sedate pastime but as with all 'sports' there is always an element of macho posturing from certain fishermen which can be rather off putting, even though your hooking these creatures they still deserve to be treated with some respect.

I can't promise you Jim Jarmusch, Dennis Hopper or Tom Waits in this thread...but Im hoping to hear if you've ever fished, how you got started and what methods you employed, see some fishing photo's, and hear stories of the one that got away...




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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 12:16pm
No fishing-bro's eh?


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 7:53pm
Used to fish with my dad as a kid, freshwater and went on some saltwater boat trips, haven't fished in ages though. Something to add to the hobby list...

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Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 9:47pm
I am the worlds worst fisherman .

My limited experience involved using chicken livers to catch catfish with a buddy when I was about 12. We caught several that his grandmother fried up.

I have a friend with quite a bit of land near ‘Slick’ Oklahoma that makes his own flies and uses a tenkara (sp?) rod. I’ve joined him Once just to get out into nature a bit. It’s enjoyable to sit in relative quiet for a few hours , 14 years of church schooling killed almost any rythm I had making me an awful awful fly fisherman. My friend is pretty patient with me though and we had a nice time.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 12:18am
I was watching some peeps noodling catfish on youtube Bob, it looks bonkers and hilarious in equal measure.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 2:12am
I caught this one on the perch lure at first light yesterday morning



Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 7:40am
Got some new lures recently from Scandinavian brand Westin

Hand painted platypus



Shads (soft lures)



You rig them up with a 15/20g jighead with a stinger below, like this.



I might have misjudged the crowd here, i didn't expect a huge response to this thread, but i did expect more than two replies Ouch


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 7:45am
Are you fishing for responses Mr Soul? Sorry that fishing has never been my thing but please carry on as I’m enjoying and learning from your adventures.

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Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 9:08am
Good to see skill and passion in the same post   



Posted By: shredwin_206
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 9:32am
Used to fish with my Dad and Grandpa. Never got as fancy or as skilled as Double O just a basic rod, line, and hook with some smelly power bait
Always got some nice rainbow trout though


Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 9:48am
Enjoying this thread and hoping that Illumin8em and I can contribute before too long.

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Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 9:14am
Electric bite indicators? That weirds me out more than when my friend showed me that they can use their smart phone as a bubble level.


The only fish I ever caught was a perch probably too small to keep. My brother once caught a fishing pole (actually the nicest one we've got). My dad caught a ticket from fish and wildlife for fishing in a boat on the wrong side of a bridge. 15 feet one way, no problem. 15 the other is 90$.


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Posted By: Denimetc
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 10:22am
Don't really fish or hunt.
Some occasional worm-and-hook fishing with my son - mostly catch and release kind.


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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 10:49am
Its pretty much all catch and release for us, taking a coarse fish out of UK waters is deeply frowned upon. Over the last decade ive heard of the occasional 'culture clash' with eastern european folk (my brother in law for instance) taking fish home for the pot. You can take game fish, trout, salmon ect

I started the same way with my grandad when i was 4 or 5 (split cane rod, wooden reel) we fished most weekends so i got mini-soul involved the same way learning the basics with a handline on a wooden spool. My dad was never a fisherman he thinks its a bit barbaric even with modern day barbless hooks.



Originally posted by Joseph Hill Joseph Hill wrote:

Electric bite indicators? That weirds me out more than when my friend showed me that they can use their smart phone as a bubble level.


Yes indeed JH, Very annoying!


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 12:42pm
Mini-soul landed the first half decent carp of the year.



Sorry about the poor photo quality, we swung by the pond for an hour after school so i didn't bother taking my camera, the hungry carp were basking in the evening sun.
The boy caught 2 this^ size, and i caught one small carp no bigger than my palm Disapprove


Posted By: A_See
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 11:50am
Great thread idea Double00! I wasn’t around for a few months and missed it. I’m hoping to have quite a bit of time to do some fishing over the summer and I’ll try to contribute.

Beautiful Carp mini-soul has there. I’ve always enjoyed catching them they put up a nice fight.
They have a bad reputation here though. Pretty much considered a pest/garbage fish, not even considered worth eating in a lot of places. I believe California regulations say that any Carp caught must be immediately killed. Which has never sat well with me.
Pike have never been allowed to get a foothold in California so I’ve never tried fishing for them, but they’ve always seemed like a fun challenge. I remember being small and constantly going back to the Pike page in my handed down fish encyclopedia and looking at the painted pictures. They always seemed like such a predator compared to the Trout and Bass I grew up fishing for.







Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 1:23pm
Thanks man, I'll look forward to it, The thread desperately needs some contributors or it will end up like the camping joint.

I think there's a similar 'invasive' carp mindset in Australia. The carp we fish for are wild (rather than bought/bred by fisheries) caught from an old overgrown duck pond in the woods, and yes they do put up quite a fight (often better than pike) folks are not allowed to fish here but the farmer who owns the land allows us to fish in exchange for the occasional bottle of Chablis. Passing infants have fed bread to ducks for years so carp take the bread, its their main source of food so no need for us to buy expensive baits.
 
Large carp at fisheries are highly revered over here, they sell for big bucks and are fattened up like Hansel, fisherman spend many £1000,s on tackle to try and catch them, they camp out overnight in tents, with 3 or 4 rods on electronic bite indicators, its bizarre their unhooking mats are more luxurious than our old baby changing mat, we just use bread on a hook with a waggler float and a single shot.

This was a nice pike that mini-soul pulled out of the canal over the winter using lamprey deadbait.



How are you fishing for the trout, flyfishing?



Posted By: A_See
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 3:06pm
It’s interesting to me the differing mindsets towards carp (as well as other species) geographically . It would be seen as crazy spending any amount of money toward carp gear around here. My carp setup has always been a pretty close mirror to yours except for at times swapping the bread for a corn kernel or two.

Regarding trout, I don’t go after them as much as I used too, but when I did it was generally bait fishing from the shore with Salmon eggs, marshmallows, or power-bait. I’ ve been wanting to take up fly fishing as there are a lot of great areas not excessively far from where I’m at, but really I have no idea where to start.   

In general nowadays I chase after Black Bass. The Sacramento Delta which is about an hour or so drive from me is widely regarded as one of the best locations in the US to fish for Black Bass. A couple of years ago I got fed up with having to link up with friends with boats and bought myself a kayak to fish from. So now I’ll usually wake up and drive out there or to one of a few reservoirs close by and paddle around and fish.

I’m hoping to do my part to contribute to the camping thread as well. I’ve got a good amount of free time scheduled this summer. At this point I’m just waiting for the snow to melt enough for the rangers to open the trails into the high Sierras to start backpacking. I will be in Yosemite in a few weeks though and will get picks up of that trip.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2018 at 1:39am
In contrast... Its not unusual around these parts to see carp-men with this level of kit, victims of marketing springs to mind.


They arrive at the fisheries often in a VW van which has been converted to carry the tackle and they pile it high into a 'carp porter' like this.


Wheel it down to the bank side and 'feed the swim' using a http://www.stivestackle.co.uk/spomb-bait-rocket-white-p-2015.html" rel="nofollow - spod which is essentially a large hollow plastic bomb which you fill with food and cast it out, it opens up when it hits the water dispensing ground bait.
They set all the gear up and wait, sometimes for days on end (I suspect that these fisherman don't get along too well with their wives) the greedy carp hoover up all the food and hopefully take the bait in the meantime.
The fishermen even have a little first aid  'medi-carp' kit to administer care should they feel it necessary, it goes way beyond affection.

These massive carp live for decades so private fisheries buy/breed them and charge fishermen £20-£40/day (depending on the size of the fish) to try and catch them, its an expensive old hobby that's fo sure. Ive never paid more than £4 to fish anywhere.

Re-trout, i used to catch small brownies in the river on super light fly tackle when i was a kid but i haven't fished for them in years...



Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2018 at 10:47am
Some bro-worthy-fishin-steeze from around the intrawebz...

Nigel Cabourn v-neck sweater and Freewheelers britches?



Brakeman sleeve detail

Ricky Nelson


A young hollows & illumin8em






Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 12:20pm
I watched this on the iplayer this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b7r2kn/mortimer-whitehouse-gone-fishing-series-1-episode-1" rel="nofollow - Mortimer & Whitehouse 'Gone Fishing' lovely poignant musings from the pair while they target tench on the broads, well worth a watch even if you don't like fishing.


Posted By: Cozzie
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 9:04pm
Not sure what took me so long to happen upon this thread. Thanks for getting this going Double 0 soul. It is very interesting hearing about the fishing culture from the UK.

I am a huge fishing enthusiast mostly fly fishing for salmonoids though. I live in the finger lakes region of New York if anyone knows where that is. We get an awesome spawning run of fish every Spring and Fall. The Spring is mostly lake run rainbow trout some as large as 10lbs and the fall run is comprised of brown trout and Atlantic landlocked salmon. I am fairly close to Lake Ontario so in the fall I’ll fish the tributaries for king salmon,who get fairly massive, up to 40lbs is not unheard, and fish for steelhead in the winter there too. There are also lots stocked streams to hit in the in the summer monthswhen the water isn’t too warm.

It’s funny that this thread started off talking about pike fishing. One of the lakes nearby my house has a rather large northern pike fishery. I use to go with my dad all the time in the summer and catch them with moon eye minnows on spinner rods but I was just talking to my fishing buddy yesterday about going out on the canoe and targeting them with the fly rod. Could be tons of fun. I always remember them fighting like hell and being really big and aggressive fish.


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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 1:14am
Fantastic Cozzie, puts my efforts to shame.
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I was watching a youtube video of some lads catching enormous brown trout under a bridge somewhere in New York recently, amazing specimens!
Over here In the winter when its freezing cold the female pike are heavy with spawn and they sit on the bottom so as not to use up precious energy, you have to run the lure right in front of their nose to prompt a bite, reeling then in is like a dead weight.
In the summer when they are on the hunt for silver/bait fish they either on patrol or hang out in the margins waiting to attack, they hit everything that moves, the fight is incredible but their head is mainly bone so they shake your lure more often than not... i hooked 5 pike in the river this week and didn't land a single one Ouch


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 1:50am
Originally posted by Double 0 Soul Double 0 Soul wrote:

I watched this on the iplayer this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b7r2kn/mortimer-whitehouse-gone-fishing-series-1-episode-1" rel="nofollow - Mortimer & Whitehouse 'Gone Fishing' lovely poignant musings from the pair while they target tench on the broads, well worth a watch even if you don't like fishing.

Saw the trailer to this the other week, thought it looked promising and recorded it, this is s good reminder for me to actually watch it!

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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 3:54am
Cozzie- When you get some spare time can you give us a guided tour of your fishing tackle and maybe some pointers regarding the techniques you use to target different species? what bait are you using with the multiplier?


Posted By: Cozzie
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 7:21am
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Fantastic Cozzie, puts my efforts to shame.
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Oh awesome! Thx for doing that. I tried to just upload them from my iPad but they were too big so I tried the hyperlink thing. Good to kno I can just drag and drop. That will be much easier. It took me a bit to get that all put together last night. Haha.


Posted By: Cozzie
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 7:27am
I know some people who go ice fishing for pike and musky around here in the winters. It never really appealed to me it just always seemed to consist of sitting around starring into a hole in the ice ice for hours, not really catching much, in a tiny little hut during the coldest points of the winter. Seemed to be mostly an excuse to drink but I can find much more suitable means of justifying that haha.


Posted By: Cozzie
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 7:30am
I wondered if the video you saw was from Fall Creek in Ithaca, NY.   Fish there all the time. It’s about 20 min drive from my house and it gets one of the best brown runs in NY. If you post the link to it I could tell you.


Posted By: Cozzie
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 7:33am
Originally posted by Double 0 Soul Double 0 Soul wrote:

Cozzie- When you get some spare time can you give us a guided tour of
your fishing tackle and maybe some pointers regarding the techniques you
use to target different species? what bait are you using with the multiplier?



I would love to do that. Time is a bit limited for me this time of year but I will try to do it soon. I don’t have a ton of gear but it would be fun to share.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2018 at 9:19am
Originally posted by Cozzie Cozzie wrote:

I wondered if the video you saw was from Fall Creek in Ithaca, NY.   Fish there all the time. It’s about 20 min drive from my house and it gets one of the best brown runs in NY. If you post the link to it I could tell you.


Just had another look.. The part with the bridge was on the Niagara river NY, the large brownies were caught in a tributary/creek off lake Ontario, amazing fish but their novice fish handling skills were cringe-worthy enough for me not to post the link.


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 2:39am
When im pike fishing i tend to walk miles alongside the rivers and canal's, while doing so, periodically i see heaps of junk pilled up on the towpath, anything from old BMX's, scooters, safe's, radiators, springs...ect and always assumed it was the canal trust/friend of clearing the junk out for the passing narrow boats until i read a few weeks ago about a father and son who died 'magnet fishing' in the Huddersfield canal and put 2&2 together.
Apparently its a new craze (well new to me) like underwater metal detecting where you get a super-powerful pot magnet with 100's of kg of magnetic force which you tie to a rope and cast out into waterways and haul in your artefact's and stolen loot.

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Anybody tried it, seen it done or even heard of this before?


Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 3:08am
I run on the canals in London (Grand Union and Regents) a few days a week and although I regularly witness quite a few sights I’ve never seen any magnet fishing (or the results there of).

I do, however, think it’s a pastime that I could be attracted to.

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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 9:23am
Oh you


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2018 at 7:30am
Ive just caught 3 nice pike in the reservoir using soft lures, lost 2 others...








Posted By: HP Sauce
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2018 at 11:35am
Dinner sorted? Recipe at the ready?

Re: magnetic fishing. I think it's a dubious enterprise backed by a dark cabal of gill-bearing aquatic life.

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Posted By: ongaku
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2018 at 1:41pm
Sorry DoubleO, I could not resist, had to do it...

 



Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2018 at 2:07pm
That’s great ongaku

and here’s the one that got away...



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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2018 at 11:32pm
Don't apologise its the greatest thing ive ever seen! the shadow on the jeans is a nice touch.

Here's hoping the next pike is more sitar-esque....


Posted By: ongaku
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2018 at 8:07am
Glad you like it...

Well.. actually the first thing I thought of was:
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges!!



Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 11:12am
Damn burglar alarm was going off at work this morning (i got a txt alert at 3:17am) i couldn't see any signs of a break in and didn't see the point in going all the way back home so i though i might as well do some work and spend the afternoon pike fishing.

The canal is looking beautiful with all the water lilies in bloom


This is what im talking about re- magnet fishing


This pike wasn't much larger than the lure, it wasn't even hooked just holding on with its teeth.
Small

Medium


Large


I'd only been fishing for 1.5hrs and i got another 'alarm' txt alert, ffs! I went back to work to  investigate and spotted a little wren flying around, luckily i had the landing net in the car but still.... it took my 5hrs+ to catch the adorable little creature, their maneuverability is just incredible, like a humming bird.


Early night tonight me thinks...Yawn!



Posted By: Maynard Fried-San
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 3:17pm
Is that duckweed floating in the canal Neal (the green stuff!)? Our canals in London have been covered in it for months, like a green carpet. It was broken up this morning though and far less prevalent, following the recent heavy rain.

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Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 11:35pm
Yellow water lilies Martin (some are white) they look great!


Duckweed is horrible stuff! on this canal i only ever see it in very small pockets around the reeds, do you get much boat traffic? i always assumed that it doesn't get established because of the narrow boats traveling up and down and the flow of the water due to the many locks.



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