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Topic: Let's talk t-shirts...
Posted By: Shorty Long
Subject: Let's talk t-shirts...
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 8:59am
nothing goes better with a pair of jeans (in my opinion) than a well-cut, well-constructed t-shirt

my preference...with money not being an object, were the LVC t's before they started "messing" with them

the cut and construction were my favorite, but I've noticed recently that they've gone to side seams (which blows my mind)...they've always been too expensive as well

Velva-Sheen was a good option, but availability is spotty and they're only a deal when on sale

I've tried goodwear, but the one issue I have is the neck...they don't tape the seam and the collar is too tight for my liking...it's almost like a mock turtleneck

what say you fellas?



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Posted By: rnrswitch
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 10:03am
I like the goodwear shirts. Neck is a bit tight. Hanes is easily my second choice. Never tried velvasheen cuz they were too expensive. I have one lvc but don't like it. The body is too long and sleeves are too short, plus the side seams suck. I don't like American apparel too much. For now it is just goodwear and Hanes, even though Hanes are made outside the states.


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Posted By: P.J.
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 10:08am
Sizing for Velva Sheen is all over the place. 
 
An expensive but worth while option is Sunspel. Not necessarily a denimbro brand but exceptional summer basic. 


Posted By: ranonranonarat
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 10:20am
with regards to t shirts i think the consensus is pretty much everywhere. for me, the cut>fabric>price>construction. coming from a tropical country, t shirts are pretty much the staple for me. triple A does it for me since it cuts nicely on the asian frame, is thick enough to absorb sweat without it becoming translucent, and the pricepoint is great as well. probably around 12USD a piece. have tried a couple of other brands as well including hanes and american apparel but they just dont do it right for me. used to like the old gildan stuff but quality seems to have gone downhill over the years.

for striped tees im willing to pay a bit more. picked up a few pieces of the saint james stuff recently on sale for around 40USD a pop and they are pretty damn good. really great for all year round humid weather and comfy as hell.


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Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 2:16pm
I love the handful of vintage champion blue-bar's I've found.  They're a lucky find at the thrifts, but I think Inventory has a repro either by Champion or possibly a Japanese repro brand.  If I had deep pockets I'd buy 6 in every available color twice a year.






Posted By: P.J.
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 2:19pm
^The Real McCoy Champion shirts? How would you describe the fit? I remember looking into them around a year ago and being turned off by something...


Posted By: Bob Dale
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 2:27pm
I know nothing of the fit on the Mccoy's, but if they are based on actual Champion Blue-Bar tees from the 70's the fit is perfect. You size up about 1 and shrink them in the wash/dryer. Super soft, perfect fit.

You can't get modern tees to shrink the same way, don't know if vintage tees were unsanforized or  something but a vintage Large in champion, russell southern, ...  all fit me perfect with Medium and S being WAYYY too small.


Posted By: colgems1966
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 7:04pm
   i had a lvc levis sportswear label white tee once and resold it within days. mine was too short in the body the neck was way too wide for a crewneck and i didn't see the value. although i am cheap when it comes to tees. walmart had some life by jockey tees cheap and they seemed nicer made than hanes or fruit of the loom. 
 i wear plain white tees all the time as outerwear in the summer and under a shirt otherwise. i'm old enough to have experienced the decline of this industry first hand. they're all garbage or expensive as hell which i cannot justify. so i try to choose the least of evils with limited success. shrinkage is a problem because i never know whether to buy xl or xxl. some brands shrink more than others. i would weep for joy if someone would sell plain white crewnecks that fit well in 3-packs for a reasonable price. i'm willing to pay a premium but not velva sheen or lvc prices. i'm thinking $30 for a three pack of better quality would be right for me. 


Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 9:23pm
For a T as an actual undergarment, i.e. worn under another shirt, I like the 100% cotton American Apparel Summer Shirt, sized down one. Fits snug, but not tight, and doesn't bunch up or stick out at the collar under a button up. Also cut long so they stay tucked in, especially if the fit is snug. Some batches seem to be tubular knit, but not all, and not the latest ones.


Posted By: colgems1966
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 10:04pm
i'll have to look those up i've never bought anything from American Apparel. thanks for the tip. tees are a sore spot for me because i'm so picky about my whole wardrobe and then buy cheapo tees from wal-mart. thing is i wear them all the time too. seems to be little middle ground in the t-shirt game either real expensive which i can't see (especially how i go through them) or cheap junk.


Posted By: AmericanArcheologist
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 10:35pm
I've always been a big fan of real deal vintage; i live in the midwest and thrift avidly (college student so don't really have the funds to pay for repro Velva Sheen's or Champion's) and have found that mid eighties Screen Stars in an XL fit my frame the best. I've owned real deal Velva Sheen's and on me the sleeves were cut way too baggy! I also really dig department store branded blank pocket tee's in large and extra large as they tend to be pretty great fitting and nicely broken in, but maybe i'm just lucky in my finds.

And for comparison, I picked up one of the LVC striped tee's from the fall line for dirt cheap on the 'bay and I gotta say even at 40 bucks I feel pretty gipped! The thing is cut like a box and the sleeves look to have been made for someone with biceps like Andre the Giant. And it's extremely short.

http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/vintage-t-shirt

^I also caught this when it made the rounds a few weeks ago and figured here would be as good a place as any to leave it. It's an easy little recipe for making your standard cotton tee's feel and fit like vintage ones.

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Posted By: colgems1966
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 10:49pm
i had the same fit experience with the LVC tee i owned short, boxy too open neckline and it was very thin. i didn't see any value and set about recouping my losses. vintage would be ideal but hard for me to find as i would need an xxl and in real vintage even that can be small. i've seen xl vintage tees that are equivalent to todays mediums. 


Posted By: AmericanArcheologist
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2012 at 10:57pm
Yeah the XL's I pick up fit like a slim-ish modern large. With XXL you prolly are going to have to stick with modern stuff. I can concur with the other fella's that American Apparel makes some really nice and really comfortable tee's, though they do cost like 20 bucks a pop. Lots of colors and styles too. I definitely recommend hitting up one of their retail stores and trying a few on.

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Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 2:17pm
if we're talking undershirts...NOBODY beats this deal
http://www.camapp.com/productDetails.php?id=3" rel="nofollow - http://www.camapp.com/productDetails.php?id=3


Posted By: P.J.
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 6:03pm
If SuperDry made blank Ts, they'd be awesome.


Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 7:29am
I like the American Apparel model 2001 t-shirt which is still tube constructed. They have a trim fit, last forever and made in the US!


Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 8:25am
I've got a couple of Heavy Pocket T's from Hanes. They are pretty thick and have a pocket, so you have to like that late 60's/early 70's style and feel. I wash them repeatedly to soften them up. I own several in white and navy.  The body is long and the cut is straight but not too boxy. 

It is a nice in-between fit if you don't want a muscle shirt or, size down.


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2012 at 4:43pm
I'm looking for quality crew & V neck T-shirts in heather-gray and oatmeal. Any recommendations appreciated.


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2012 at 5:03pm
I'm a big fan of Entry SG, but I don't think they are easy to find outside Japan.

http://www.entrysg.jp/index3.htm


Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2013 at 5:15am
Goodwear has a good deal going right now...2-pack long- or short-sleeve pocket t's in RED for $30

http://www.goodwear.com/2-pack-exclusive-red-with-white/" rel="nofollow - http://www.goodwear.com/2-pack-exclusive-red-with-white/


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 5:40am
I tend to keep my best secrets, best-kept-secrets -but I can't resist sharing this one. Was introduced to them through a friend of mine. Based in Wakayama, Japan. 

http://kanekichi-turi.com/weben/" rel="nofollow - Kanekichi is my personal favorite loop-wheel knitting company. Organic cotton on all their t's. I have a few of their products, basically the best t-shirts you can buy. 


Posted By: Snake
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 6:22am
Thanks for sharing BA. Are there sites that I can see or carry their products online?


Posted By: Bords
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 10:46am
Does Kanekichi sell tees directly? Would love to try some but from the looks of their website they only sell fabric?


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 5:12pm
There are a few people who carry their products. I'll post links to those a little later.


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 5:16pm
I'm interested as well. Any henleys?


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 1:45am
Okay Folks. There are other companies that are ordering from kanekichi but my good friend http://bandanna-almanac.com/2012/07/26/tezomeya-kyoto-organic-craft-dyeing/" rel="nofollow - Masaki at http://www.tezomeya.com/lineup/lineup.html%20" rel="nofollow - Tezomeya has been dealing with them for long enough time. He is actually the one who introduced me to them.  

Also http://loopwheeler.jp/en/" rel="nofollow - LoopWheeler  I think is their brand or official reseller.




Posted By: gnob
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 3:58am
Makes me wanna visit them so much. Thanks for the great write up on them and for the introduction. Easily a good read.


Posted By: Snake
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 12:07pm

Wow, loopwheel fabric plus natural dyes. The colors look wonderful. Only if the t-shirts come in size 180cm. Thanks for sharing BA.



Posted By: Flash
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 2:19pm
thought id share some pics of my loopwheel tee's

first up is my favorite , Joe McCoy (Real McCoy)


i love fabric of this tee , its soo soft and tight woven and also had quite a lot of texture 



the print as also aging realy well

and some Flat Head



never realy thought id find a tee that came close to McCoys but these are defiantly on the same level 
im not 100% sure if the reglan sleeve tee is loopwheel but its still a great tee 

 

 


Posted By: johnb
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 3:39pm




Mister Freedom makes a nice T shirt

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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 9:53pm
My heavy rotation t-shirt. 3 weeks in direct sunlight, Kakishibu brown.





Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 10:17pm
Looks great. Thanks for posting pics.


Posted By: FormFollowsFunction
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2013 at 12:55pm
Afternoon guys heres a heads up theres 25% off over at www.homage.com if you use the coupon code RELENTLESS, pick up some nice tee's for the summer.  


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2013 at 12:10am
Opinions on the Levi's Bay Meadows 1930?


Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2013 at 4:02pm
can someone please explain the proliferation of the side seam on t-shirts? is it really THAT much more inexpensive than going tubular? is cost the major factor? i'm assuming it is.

left field just released a whole bunch of t-shirts in amazing colors, heavyweight ring spun cotton, but damned if they don't have a side seam...that's just a detail i can't go for.

first, i think it looks cheap, and second, it seems that it seam always twists and ends up messing with the fit

i'm obviously in the minority, because it seems like more and more labels are using it (the aforementioned left field, LVC, AA, taylor stitch, farm tactics, etc).

OK...rant over


Posted By: Mr Black
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 7:39am
Anyone know where I can get a plain version of something like this...

The net is awash with raglan sleeved or henly options but nothing with a set-in. Any of the old US sportswear companies still churning these out or will i need to head japan-ward?




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Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 1:28am
I don't know how they've been in the past, but the Warehouse t-shirts (also henleys and polo shirts) are really nice this year. They've got a few different styles, but here is a link to the plainest version.

http://www.ware-house.co.jp/index.php?page=item&ic=49538&mode=newarrivals" rel="nofollow - https://www.ware-house.co.jp/index.php?page=item&ic=49538&mode=newarrivals


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 3:41am
Here is a sample I received at Tezomeya of the Kanekichi Loopwheel Falling Loom Knit. This is the ecru (kinari) undyed and unbleached loom state knit. 




Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 3:54am
Originally posted by Shorty Long Shorty Long wrote:

can someone please explain the proliferation of the side seam on t-shirts? is it really THAT much more inexpensive than going tubular? is cost the major factor? i'm assuming it is.

left field just released a whole bunch of t-shirts in amazing colors, heavyweight ring spun cotton, but damned if they don't have a side seam...that's just a detail i can't go for.

first, i think it looks cheap, and second, it seems that it seam always twists and ends up messing with the fit

i'm obviously in the minority, because it seems like more and more labels are using it (the aforementioned left field, LVC, AA, taylor stitch, farm tactics, etc).

OK...rant over

Generally speaking loop-wheel machines are a standard. The only difference is as you have mentioned the t-shirt twists. 

In the loop-wheel production, modern machines knit between 20-40 lines of thread. The knit fabric is then rolled onto a drum that rotates with the machine as the thread is knit. The fabric is stretched, and the threads are under considerable tension during this operation. 

This production method is the quickest but as a result you have to cut the fabric tube and re-sew the side seams so it won't twist. Unfortunately there is a trend for seamless knit t's. The less expensive seamless t's have the aforementioned twist. You will see some brands cut the fabric at an angle to avoid twisting, and it doesn't look as good as a straight cut t. 

High quality falling looms don't have this but they only knit one or two threads at a time. This means to make a run it takes a day and a half. 20 - 40 minutes on more modern machines. 

The big difference is because there is virtually no tension on the thread or the fabric the result is virtually no twisting. Traditionally all cotton knits were manufactured in this manner, so generally speaking the quality of good loop-wheel seamless t-shirts is far superior to seamed. But the trend to modernize equipment has resulted in mediocre t-shirts. There is less stitching and less waste, plus it requires far more skill to sew high quality knits. 


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 4:15am
^^ BA, is this the one you posted above?

http://www.tezomeya.com/item/nocolor_t.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.tezomeya.com/item/nocolor_t.html


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 4:27am
That'd be the one.


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 4:31am
Look's great. Going on my wish list.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 4:34am
Awesome, he spent a lot of time to get them sewn in the just the right way. The fabric curls quite a bit so it takes some patience to sew. As a note they are sewn in Kyoto. 


Posted By: Ali from Bath
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 11:52am
The Buzz Rickson tshirts are great, but the best tshirt that I have bought recently is the Eastman leather US navy one ...     Fantastic quality and a great vintage fit ...



Posted By: Jelthead
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 8:13pm
AAF t-shirt from Scott at Top Stitch Vintage.

http://s12.photobucket.com/user/13thBS/media/AAC-1.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: Snake
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 9:46pm
My Tezomeya loopwheeled tee.
The fabric has this horizontal texture
 
while the underside of the fabric is like the one shown by Bandanna Almanac
 
Close up of the neck construction
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 7:27pm
Nice slubbiness on that Tezomeya. How thick is that?


Posted By: Snake
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 10:05pm
It's lighter than Flat Head THC series. I say it's similar to Freewheelers light weight tee, Fullcount's Zimbabwe tee, and Warehouse tee I own.


Posted By: Texas
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 12:11am
Thanks. They remind me of the 1930s T-shirts without the ribbed neck.


Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 6:42am
hickorees just got a batch of velva-sheen pocket t's in new colors (gold, black, navy, maroon)...most sizes sold out almost instantly, but i'm going to keep my eyes peeled for further US availability of these

http://www.hickorees.com/brand/velva-sheen" rel="nofollow - http://www.hickorees.com/brand/velva-sheen


Posted By: Mr Black
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 7:10am
Nice



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Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 7:50am
These are really great t-shirts for the $!!! 

Originally posted by Jelthead Jelthead wrote:

AAF t-shirt from Scott at Top Stitch Vintage.

http://s12.photobucket.com/user/13thBS/media/AAC-1.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


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Posted By: Papa
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 12:53pm
Eastman all the way. A great original vintage fit, but perhaps not everyones cup of tea. Most of us associate a plain tee with what you may have seen Brando or Dean wear in old photos, however the 40's ones are very scoopy in the neck, narrow in the body and sort in the sleeves. They suit my frame so Im not complaining.
Papa.


Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 8:47am
...like a ballerina shirt...;-)

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Posted By: badseed
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by Papa Papa wrote:

Eastman all the way. A great original vintage fit, but perhaps not everyones cup of tea. Most of us associate a plain tee with what you may have seen Brando or Dean wear in old photos, however the 40's ones are very scoopy in the neck, narrow in the body and sort in the sleeves. They suit my frame so Im not complaining.
Papa.

Papa!!!

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Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2013 at 5:16am
FYI I am now in charge of taking all international orders for Tezomeya. So that means no more proxy fees for Tezomeya products. 

I will be bringing a full sample (size and colour) set with me to the states this summer. That also should be making it's way to denimbruin swap meet or feel free to shoot me a mail before hand if you are in the Chicagoland area (July 18 - August 6). I will gladly show you the line, dyestuff, and material. 




Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2013 at 5:55pm
I'm doing an event this weekend July 20th at Independence Chicago showing a large amount of Tezomeya products. I will be explaining the process and differences of loop wheeled knits and more importantly the various Japanese dyes and color history. Also will feature other makers as well. If you have a chance please stop by.


Posted By: ThisSunday
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 4:15pm
Looking for a tee that's similar to the tees in Band of Brothers as possible. Who makes something like this? Real McCoy's?



Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 5:04pm
How bout these?

http://papanuisays.blogspot.jp/2014/01/papa-nui-wears-eastman-usn-t-shirt.html" rel="nofollow - http://papanuisays.blogspot.jp/2014/01/papa-nui-wears-eastman-usn-t-shirt.html


Posted By: Ali from Bath
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 11:34pm
Yes I was going to say Eastman .....    It is a brilliant t-shirt, amazing quality and fit ...
Also there is a new ELMC range out, which I am not sure how many people have seen ?
Great Co-labs with John Lofgren, so what is not to love !!!


Posted By: ThisSunday
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 3:48am
Originally posted by Ishmael Ishmael wrote:

How bout these?

http://papanuisays.blogspot.jp/2014/01/papa-nui-wears-eastman-usn-t-shirt.html" rel="nofollow - http://papanuisays.blogspot.jp/2014/01/papa-nui-wears-eastman-usn-t-shirt.html


Thanks Ishmael, that's exactly what I'm looking for. Now I have to decide if I want to pay that price.


Posted By: davito
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 5:12am
This sunday this is the real mccoy made in USA from the two pack



Posted By: eleks
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 5:53am
That white Tee from the 2 pack is nice, Davito! I have it and love it too.
I think the Mister Freedom Skivvy is also worth a look for ThisSunday. That's not a complete repro, but gets inspiration from those 40s USN tees.


Posted By: Rivet Head
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 10:54am
Anyone make a vintage style t-shirt that a 6' 4" man can tuck in? I've have been disappointed over and over again...they are all short, boxy and most have a big wide ballerina neck. 

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Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 2:13pm
Davito, looks great. Think I'll pick up a pack of those.


Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 4:50am
fyi...Left Field will be releasing 2-pack tubular t's sometime this Spring; both pocketed and non...colors include black, white, gray, olive, maybe a few other; i can't recall at the moment


Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 7:41am
I've been playing finders keepers, trying to steal one of my guy's hanes shirts—but he's caught on, and takes it back anytime he sees it in my laundry bag or on my floor. Dead

Would love to find something that's inexpensive, threadbare, tubular, and kind of just a standard mens fit—I'd buy 20.  Alternatively, can I pay someone to wear some hanes teeshirts repeatedly until they look just so?


http://store.americanapparel.net/unisex-sheer-jersey-loose-crew-summer-t-shirt_rsa6402w" rel="nofollow - This american apparel summer shirt will be my go-to until then.


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Posted By: proulxsie
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 7:46am
Also, thanks for the inspiration—just bought this on Etsy for $20.




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Posted By: Shorty Long
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 8:30am
left field t's now available for preorder:
http://leftfieldnyc.com/collections/new" rel="nofollow - http://leftfieldnyc.com/collections/new




Posted By: SLAB2
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 10:40am
left field and real mccoys shirts are looking good
 
anyone here own any fill mélange shirts?


Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 10:51pm
FilMelange loopwheel tees are great - own a few of their Dizzy model - liking them better than the recent RMcC loopwheel tee
Pricey - probably not easy to come by outside of Japan or Rakuten.


Posted By: rust
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 2:29am
I agree on American Apparel. Say what you will about their branding, but their shirts are very consistent and incredibly soft. Some of their other offerings (sweatshirts, etc.) are cut way too skinny… arms too long, etc. but the tee's are great. The trick is to find someone with a wholesale account you can buy from. When I was living in LA in 2001 and occasionally buying a few dozen shirts at a time to print promotional stuff on, I had an account and would roll down to the factory. When you buy dozens with a wholesale account, you're getting shirts for about $3.50 each (yeah… crazy mark-up). Every year or so I'd buy another dozen for myself (I mean, a dozen high-quality shirts for $45? Why not?) After a few years, I had 48 t's to cycle through and a big-ass t-shirt drawer (all shirts I wore for work everyday). As they got bigger, AA culled their weak wholesale buyers and I got kicked off their lists. But, I do still have some friends that I can sneak orders in with… and, I'm still wearing shirts on the daily that I bought in that first dozen… and they're the perfect kind of worn.


Posted By: Mr Black
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 2:35am
I personally find the Fruit of the loom pocket tees are perfect for me. Reasonably weighty, tubular, not too long, sleeves arent too flappy and they fit my frame very well.

Dirt cheap


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Posted By: Cinch
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 8:56am
The very best pocket T shirts I've ever owned were made in the USA by "Ralph Lauren Country" brand in the mid-80's. The details were flawless. The cotton oh-so comfortable. 


Posted By: Sardine
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 8:45am
These new ones from workers look killer, especially the henly. Too bad no 44 Cry
http://www.e-workers.net/store/2014062/p2.htm


Posted By: jim_wombat
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2014 at 3:59pm
At the Front.com make a very realistic 1940's ww2 T-shirt in white and green for under 20 USD, the only problem is they have side seams. The new batch has a very chessy iron on collar label which rubs off after being in the dryer on high heat. I wanted a more realistic Navy spec label, so I did some research and ordered a custom ink stamp, this is how it turned out, let me know if you have any questions.







Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 15 May 2014 at 10:54pm
This is a good looking t-shirt. And I wish repro makers would take a look and learn a lesson about color choices (the lesson being: there are other colors than black! Sorry but orange x black border shirts? No).

BUT, $200.00? The vintage market in this country is insane.

http://otoko-miyazaki.blogspot.jp/2014/01/early-1960s-turquoise-blue-green-border.html" rel="nofollow - http://otoko-miyazaki.blogspot.jp/2014/01/early-1960s-turquoise-blue-green-border.html


Posted By: swallowtail
Date Posted: 15 May 2014 at 11:10pm
Ive only been wearing tee's and jeans lately since its so hot here in so cal

I dig the 50s 60s striped tees with thick bold stripes.
Certain LVC tees do the trick but trying to find more pocket tees that are 100% cotton

this vtg one is killer from rivet head blog!
(needs to be repro'd)

http://rivet-head.blogspot.com/2010/07/1940s-jantzen-striped-t-shirt.html" rel="nofollow - http://rivet-head.blogspot.com/2010/07/1940s-jantzen-striped-t-shirt.html





Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 15 May 2014 at 11:52pm
Yeah that's nice. Although I'm not a huge fan of the black. (can you add a link to RH's post?)

Not a huge fan of LVC either, but I do like a lot of their tees. But they are a pretty penny.

Not that I can talk. I recently picked up a pretty expensive tee from FW today.

I really like their vintage medium weight fabric and the "fade navy" color. And, while the print won't be everyone's cup of tea, it's hand drawn by Mr. Komori of FW and has an amazing level of detail.



http://blog.livedoor.jp/mcfly_store/archives/50786284.html" rel="nofollow - http://blog.livedoor.jp/mcfly_store/archives/50786284.html


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 12:32am
I love me some stripes!!!
The recent offerings from Buco are nice but the long sleeves might not be suitable for Cali sunshine.

http://shopping.c.yimg.jp/lib/vintage/bc14001_1.jpg



Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 12:41am
Me too. Although I'm picky about colors, fabrics etc.

To what extent do you think the prevalence of border tees among repro brands today owes its origins to whoever dressed this guy?




Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 12:53am
To a great extent.

PS. STORM THE BASTILLE!!!!



Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 1:07am
I reckon Mr. Marvin probably dressed himself.
I love his outfits in Donovan's Reef.

http://essentialhommemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/donovan-reef.jpg

...and some nice use of Chambray when he jumps ship at the beginning of the film.



Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 1:09am
I agree. But we'd need a time machine to go back, change his costume to a plain white tee, and then quantify the alternative results.....

TO THE DELOREAN!


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 1:10am
Sorry missed your post OO. You're probably right.


Posted By: killer b
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 1:19am
ha, I watched the wild one for the first time a few weeks ago, marvin just owns it whenever he's on screen.


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by Double 0 Soul Double 0 Soul wrote:

I love me some stripes!!!
The recent offerings from Buco are nice but the long sleeves might not be suitable for Cali sunshine.

http://shopping.c.yimg.jp/lib/vintage/bc14001_1.jpg



Joe McCoy has some good looking SS border tees. The white x burgundy is particularly nice.

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/vintage/mc14012/" rel="nofollow - http://item.rakuten.co.jp/vintage/mc14012/


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 12:39am
Nicely done OO. I'll catch up with you someday.

I actually just saw the burg/white one at a shop today. Didn't realize it was Zimb cotton, but it definitely had a very nice texture. 


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 1:03am
Too bad they ruined that falling loop wheel knit with a rib knit collar. Looks too chunky...


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 1:13am
I don't think they are loop wheeled.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 1:32am
I am pretty sure RM is still using Kanekichi for their knits. I am pretty sure that is loop wheel knit just cut for the pattern.


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 1:33am
The collar didn't look at all chunky to me. I have no idea if they are loop wheeled. But the way they are presented in the RMC catalog makes it seem like they are loop wheeled. They follow a page with a sweatshirt that looks like its introducing a section of all loopwheeled goods.

OO. I don't think there was any misunderstanding. Just a reference to me being 12 months behind you.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 1:39am
Originally posted by Ishmael Ishmael wrote:

The collar didn't look at all chunky to me. I have no idea if they are loop wheeled. But the way they are presented in the RMC catalog makes it seem like they are loop wheeled. They follow a page with a sweatshirt that looks like its introducing a section of all loopwheeled goods.

OO. I don't think there was any misunderstanding. Just me behind the times again.....

It adds visual bulk to the collar, and an unnaturally round line. 


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 1:47am
What would you have done BA?

OO, the catalog lists the blue x navy as also Zimbabwe cotton. Is your navy an older model?


Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 1:54am
If you take a look at the McCoy's web catalogue every product that is Loopwheeled is clearly described as such, They only use loopwheel construction for very few products, The MC13001 T's are Loop most others are not,  its the same with the sweatshirts until the recent addition of MC13111 last year no McCoys sweats were Loopwheeled.



Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 2:09am
OO I think what they mean is that the tube hasn't been cut. Almost all tees are loop wheel knit, just the machines differ in quality and operation. It is kinda like selvedge and non selvedge denim.

Ish, fold-over collar using the base fabric. Rib knit collars are good for cutting costs, because they're easier to stitch. 


Posted By: Ishmael
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 2:11am
Can you give me a link or a pic.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 2:22am
Pure Blue Japan and Tezomeya use the same technique. A few other companies use this construction as well. Probably most people don't think about this stuff but it makes a huge difference in terms of quality.




Posted By: Double 0 Soul
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 2:25am
None of my 4 McCoys sweatshirts are loopwheeled but they are all uncut tubular construction without side seems, the only mccoys sweat to use loop is MC13111. I dont own many McCoys T,s so cant argue the point with any confidence but usually if it says Loop its Loop otherwise its just a tubular constructed T-shirt. I have loads of cheap T,s Gildan ect they are all tubular construction but not necessarily made using Loopwheel.


Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 17 May 2014 at 2:31am
There are so many different types of loop wheel I think you misunderstand tubular construction is loop wheeled even sweatshirts are made using various types of loop wheel knitting machines. 



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