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Topic: General Work Wear Research
Posted By: Nonriveted
Subject: General Work Wear Research
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 10:15pm
This thread is for any and all Work Wear Research, images and Discussions.



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Posted By: Nonriveted
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 4:08pm
Here is a stack of mostly nonriveted denim, a phenomenon only to have happened in the late 1800's, and some of my favorite designs.......most have never been remade, but I am hoping in the future to have a collection of one of each.....



Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 4:44pm
What is the material on that top pair?


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 4:53pm
Looks like the A.B Elfelt pants^^


Posted By: illumin8em
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2012 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

What is the material on that top pair?


my computer monitor is making it look like a fisher stripe which i don't think that i know the name for or how old the pattern is. surely not old enough


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 3:20am
Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

What is the material on that top pair?
Sorry I didn't answer your question, that's denim that's been bleached by the sun in some places


Posted By: Nonriveted
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 12:53pm
Mr Randal, Well the denim has really streaky fades and the double white line running through the denim is an error from the loom, at least that's our best guess!! its a 3x1 denim....


Posted By: cash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2012 at 1:27pm
That is some serious loom chatter. I love it. No chance a QA guy in any modern factory would let "flaws" like that out.


Posted By: entertainment!
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 4:02pm
Here are some patents for cigarette pocket shirts.

http://www.google.com/patents/US1763688

http://www.google.com/patents/US2358137


Posted By: flatpattern
Date Posted: 06 May 2012 at 6:35am
Well well well.......not sure where to post this but congrats on Sunday Morning guys........sitting here eatting my cereal and who do I see but Mike Harris and Roy Slaper........wow congrats!!


Posted By: Snake
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2014 at 5:37pm
I was watching American Picker last night and they found this metal pressed sign for a denim brand I never heard of....Tiger Overalls by JM Robinson, Norton and Co based in Kentucky. Not exactly an original idea with two tigers pulling apart a pair of pants.




Seems to be one of smaller brand from the early 1900s.

http://union-made.blogspot.com/2012/12/1908-jm-robinson-norton-co-salesman.html?m=1



Posted By: the bandanna almanac
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2014 at 7:25pm
I think almost every railroad depot had a factory making overalls, different brands all over the place. 


Posted By: *lefty*
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 9:22pm
looks like vintage hollows to me


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Posted By: hollywoodisgood
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2014 at 6:41pm
Does anyone know when the first red wing iron rangers where made? Before 1910-20?


Posted By: *lefty*
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 10:26pm
My offer was just accepted for this on ebay. It seems like the perfect lapel/pocket ornament and, like most db fetish items will have that interior detail that will only be known to a few. 



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Posted By: hollows
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2015 at 10:34pm
That is a VERY good find.  Some jealousy here.

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Posted By: *lefty*
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2015 at 11:13am
things I bought and learned about today - see the tumblr for more



bandit before bandit


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Posted By: attackwithstones
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2015 at 11:28am
Lefty...

If your collecting CCC stuff, I think I have a pocket knife you would be into.

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Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 10:26am
List of clothing mfgs from 1905 - Thomas Register of American Manufacturers
 
A lot of overalls, duck pants... etc
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Nonriveted
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 11:52am
Wow, that's great....very interesting


Posted By: Joseph Hill
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 8:21am
Man, I REALLY want a pair of Dinklespiels!

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Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 10:37am
Interesting passage from Ten Years A Cowboy by Tex Bender, 1884:
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 5:49pm
California rivet overalls in Las Vegas Daily Gazette Jul 15, 1881:
 
 
 


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 5:50pm
San Fran mfgs, 1909:
 
 


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 5:52pm
Overalls pricing w/description from General Convention, Baltimore  Aug 18, 1901:
 
 


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 9:36am
Description of Levi tag from Harpers Bazaar December 1892:
 
 


Posted By: Ol' Roy
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 11:01am
Really fascinating stuff, Buler, particularly the passage from 'Ten Years a Cowboy'. 

Thank you for posting so generously! 

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Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 11:23am
Thanks, Ol' Roy.
 
 
Levi Strauss legal details from Printers Ink Oct 1, 1914:
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 9:33am
Possible reference to the Greenebaum strengthening patent in this ad from The Springfield Globe, Ohio, Jul 11, 1885:
 
"Brown Duck Overall with single pocket, with leather pocket stays, seven buttons and strap and buckle 26c."
 
 


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 9:44am
Ad for Champion brand (Elfelt) from the Vancouver Independent, Washington, July 19th, 1877:
 
 
Ad for Champion and Pioneer brand overalls (A.B. Elfelt) in the Mineral Argus, Montana, July 22, 1886:
 
 


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 7:07pm
Elfelt newspaper article, The Vancouver Independent, Washington, July 12th, 1877:
 
 


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 5:51pm
Picked up some old ads, if anyone wants clearer shots of these I can take some non-bokeh photos later:

First one is for Big Yank flannels and a shirt jacket, from the Farm Journal, 1925:


Pretty humorous; the flannel has an interesting double elbow that unfortunately never shows up clearly. Here's the shirt-jacket:



Another Reliance Mfg Co., this time for the Big Yank Cig Pocket shirt; I'd have to look again, I think this is from Popular Mechanics. It's listed as 1930 but there's no date on it:





Last but not least, a couple pages from Popular Mechanics, I think, this time from 1919 for a Signal wabash polka dot, detachable cub collar shirt. I'm a big fan of the front placket and it's lack of any bartacking or horizontal stitching at the bottom, pretty elegant:



Two shirts in one:








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Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 6:07am
Some patents you may find interesting. You'll have to look them up to read the text description.

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Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 5:12am
Great stuff, Buler!

Here's today's find; Sears Roebuck catalog, 1910:











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Posted By: denimsince65
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 7:10am
Good stuff! Thanks for upping

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Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 10:35pm
I made a blog post recently giving a brief overview of work shirts from 1900 to 1930, especially my favorite styles and including clippings from my collection and what I've managed to find in online scans of catalogs and newspapers; I would copy-paste it here but it's formatting strangely, so here's a link instead:

https://the-rite-stuff.com/blogs/news/the-evolution-of-the-work-shirt" rel="nofollow - https://the-rite-stuff.com/blogs/news/the-evolution-of-the-work-shirt


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Posted By: Dr_Heech
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 11:17pm
Very nice little write up lron horse, must have taken a while to collate. Great to see passion and interest in this (fairly) unique area.
And l always wondered about those little cut outs on work shirts and chore coats.
Thanks for the education.


Posted By: Duke
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 12:09am
Looking forward to the next instalment Bryan

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Posted By: HP Sauce
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 5:19am
Having spent most of this winter locked inside stitching up clothing, I took a real delight in reading your blog post, Iron Horse. So much attention to building in a long lifespan.

I love how when you know what went into the making of a garment, you can more easily spot the cleverness of design decisions. Sort of like a pleasant version of donning the sunglasses in John Carpenter's They Live...

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Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 9:51am
thanks for sharing that research IH!


Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 2:03pm
The stories about the early 20th century work shirts is fascinating. It is surprising that black sateen was one of the fabrics offered for work shirts.
 
Even quite early, army surplus uniforms, shirts especially, were being worn by workers and I have a photo (which I can't reproduce) of an uncle wearing both an army OD flannel shirt and breeches, worn with wrap leggings. Also, back when getting the Sears catalog was a major household event in the 1950s, I recall that Sears (and Wards and Penny's) had lots of work clothes and in different grades, too.


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 3:24pm
Thanks guys; BlueTrain, looking back through so many catalogs, photos, etc. has given me an itching to get a pair of breeches. Dunno if they’ll suit me though!

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Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2019 at 3:09am
I mentioned somewhere else that I'd really like to find a pair of Filson breeches--in my size. I doubt they have made them since the 1940s, though. I have seen one pair years ago on eBay, which naturally weren't in my size. They weren't cheap, either. Curiously, I have seen a lot of heavy wool Woolrich breeches, all in that red plaid pattern.
 
I have tried on WWII army khaki breeches and they were much too tight through the knees, at least for "foot breeches." I probably wouldn't have the nerve to wear them in public anyway.


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 7:20pm
Blue, the Filson ones were really nice; here's a pair that sold already over at Cocky Crew Store:

http://www.cockycrewstore.com/?pid=102498476#slider/0" rel="nofollow - http://www.cockycrewstore.com/?pid=102498476#slider/0

I like how they're more tapered at the thighs than many riding or dual-purpose riding/working breeches were. That sort of officer/riding look is a bit too costumey for me to wear in public. Some of the Freewheelers breeches are also quite tapered/straight at the thighs and lack the billowiness. 




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Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 8:54pm
The sequel to my previous blog post is up; this time focusing just on the 1930s:

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Posted By: killer b
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 2:11am
I've picked up some nice waxed cotton and wanted to make a jacket out of it - anyone got any idea where I'd get a pattern for a simple chore coat or french workers jacket type thing?


Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 6:17am
Originally posted by killer b killer b wrote:

I've picked up some nice waxed cotton and wanted to make a jacket out of it - anyone got any idea where I'd get a pattern for a simple chore coat or french workers jacket type thing?



Try searching "American Tailor and Cutter" in google books. Those issues have patterns in them. You may find a coat pattern.

B


Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 1:02pm
Thanks for posting the link to the Filson breeches. Riding breeches worn with boots around 1900 did not have that large flare that came into style sometime after WWI, although I think officer's breeches in WWI had more flare than the issue ones for the men. Civilian styles actually meant for riding were apparently quite wide in the thigh in the late 30s and 40s. But breeches were also commonly worn as work and outing garments during that period, usually narrower in the thigh. Today, of course, they have no flare at all.
 
Regarding the large number of manufacturers of work clothes in the past, somewhere I ran across a business directory for West Virginia from a long time ago (don't remember precisely), perhaps the teens or twenties. Again, there were a surprising number of woolen mills listed, with the number of employees given. Don't remember any garment factories but it's been a while since I saw that directory, which was reproduced in its entirety. But I think a similar directory from more recent years up through around 1990 would have been surprising, too. However, nearly all the businesses listed were fairly small.
 
I think I may have been trying to find information on the laundry and dry cleaning plant in my hometown, where my father worked. It was the second largest business in town with dozens of employees at one time. That was before wash and wear. The largest employer in town was the Virginian Railroad shops, which employed about 1,000 men and possibly three or four women. The operation was moved in the 1970s, which devastated the town.


Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 1:38pm
I found my reference for West Virginia businesses. It was published for the years 1919/1920. Child labor laws were just passed in 1919.
 
The state was surprisingly industrialized then, at least in places. The larges employers were railroads, followed by steel, glass, chemicals and probably lumber. There were still business making harnesses and saddles, ice, and gas lights and there were bottling plants everywhere. The report runs to 99 pages but half the report is a listing of businesses with violations in detail, including underage employees. Martinsburg had a large factory that made socks under the Interwoven brand, with about 1,000 employees in 1920. There were labor troubles in the 1930s and 1940s. The operation closed in 1976. And that was the end of that.


Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 2:43am
given the pruning of the vintage overall thread, wondering if best to put this here rather than start a new one...

a follow up to finding a nice denim oshkosh b'gosh strap-back pair last year (perhaps from 50s)...

[couple of pix here, with union tag of AFL - dating to pre-55 I realise]

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... found what seems to be a fairly old hickory stripe vestbak... [in the back of a vintage store, they hadn't tagged / priced it yet, I whisked it out of there asap... smelt like it had been near some pretty nasty chemicals in its time...]

searching the internet seems pretty fruitless for dating it (vestbak as a term brings up the multitude of baby-wear the company has been concentrating on since the 90s...) but sharing it nonetheless...

the only dating factor I can think of is hardware and the union-made tag in the bag left pocket [which to my minimal knowledge places it between 1955 (when AFL and CIO merged) and when oshkosh stopped making adult clothes; some time in the 90s]; anyone have any idea about to look further on tags? finding some things on AFL-CIO tags but not specific to oshkosh...

anyway; pics, stitching, hardware, fit, etc. etc.

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Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 3:24am
Do you suppose there are people who won't buy something if it displays a "union-made" label?


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 8:50pm
Testing the image function again with this Big Yank matchbook I just got:





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Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 4:01am
wow!
spatula for me pls!


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 12 May 2020 at 11:01pm
Thanks to Sansome for pointing me in the right direction; ended up finding these: The Stronghold ads, all from May-June 1920 in the LA Herald:



















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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 13 May 2020 at 7:39pm
Nice find IH- been doing some spring cleaning, I came across the research my father-in-law did on union labels.
I’ll post that later.


Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 3:38am
"Stronghold" is a brand I've never heard of. Interesting advertisements. I guess breeches were the thing to wear in the great outdoors at one time. I've owned a couple of pair of cotton khaki breeches but they were way too tight in the knees and calves, especially on my left leg. That's because I used to drive a vehicle with a very heavy clutch peddle. One writer ages ago referred to "walking breeches."


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 7:17am
Originally posted by BlueTrain BlueTrain wrote:


"Stronghold" is a brand I've never heard of. Interesting advertisements. I guess breeches were the thing to wear in the great outdoors at one time. I've owned a couple of pair of cotton khaki breeches but they were way too tight in the knees and calves, especially on my left leg. That's because I used to drive a vehicle with a very heavy clutch peddle. One writer ages ago referred to "walking breeches."



So your left leg was always working out- bigger muscle from the heavy/stiff clutch pedal- I remember the arms getting a
Workout from not having- no power steering- my uncle actually broke his arm with his dodge power wagon, 10 years back.
Stronghold was super common come the turn of the century through the 30’s


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 4:25pm
Yep, the Stronghold was an LA-based makes of overalls and other work clothing.

They were revived but their new stuff isn’t the same; they have history page here though:

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Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 5:10pm
Yeah. I remember going to their store maybe 15 years ago. Didn't care for their stuff. All of the pants were low rise & after looking at that link it appears things have stayed the same. Kinda surprised they're still going. 


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by CSL CSL wrote:

Yeah. I remember going to their store maybe 15 years ago. Didn't care for their stuff. All of the pants were low rise & after looking at that link it appears things have stayed the same. Kinda surprised they're still going. 



Stronghold (the original) has so many simple straight forward items, not sure why this wasn't utilized
as a base for the brand, then wonder off with all the other stuff, I run into the owner at the Rose Bowl- don't want to say too much...just some original designs would at least make me interested in the brand.


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 8:32pm
I posted this years before, here it is again- the pistol pocket.
A pistol pocket story, wrote in the 1870's, was way more extreme...
Than the one your about to read.

When i find the 1870's PP story, I'll post it.

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Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 9:43pm
Originally posted by Sansome Sansome wrote:

Stronghold (the original) has so many simple straight forward items, not sure why this wasn't utilized 
as a base for the brand, then wonder off with all the other stuff, I run into the owner at the Rose Bowl- don't want to say too much...just some original designs would at least make me interested in the brand.

No worries. It's nothing personal. The guy has a right to his own vision & the fact that he's lasted some years must mean that he has generated adequate clientele. It's just not for guys like us who crave the vibe of the original brand.
 




Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 2:48am
On a blog that I read that is mostly about preppy clothing, I read the same thing. Readers wonder why manufacturers and retailers aren't still selling the same things they sold in 1965.
 
I told the story about when shopping for a car for our daughter, we looked at a Volvo V-70 wagon that had a manual transmission. I thought that was very unusual and I mentioned it to the salesman. He said they don't sell. Anyway, my daughter didn't like it because it was a 'mom car.'
 
More to the point, however, it is remarkable that there are still a few things that were available in 1965 that are in fact still available, more or less the same, although they aren't selling in large numbers. Changes in production technology and costs, not to mention consumer tastes (or lack of) are the main reasons are at least a little different now. In workwear, for instance, when did you last see anyone wearing those matched work outfits that seemed to be the standard in the 40s, 50s and on into the 60s? I think blue jeans are much more common now but bib overalls less so.


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 12:33pm
True- the both of you^^^
I have no doubt, what I would
Like to see manufactured, wouldn’t
Keep a business afloat.


Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 1:37pm
The thing that jacked my jaw with The Stronghold was the feeling of being misled by the tease of old timey fabrics, cinch backs, vintage vibe graphics only to find after making the pilgrimage to the store that those elements were grafted onto silly low rise fashion fits. Also there was a stick-like-glue, over zealous sales lady who made me uncomfortable. 


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by CSL CSL wrote:

The thing that jacked my jaw with The Stronghold was the feeling of being misled by the tease of old timey fabrics, cinch backs, vintage vibe graphics only to find after making the pilgrimage to the store that those elements were grafted onto silly low rise fashion fits. Also there was a stick-like-glue, over zealous sales lady who made me uncomfortable. 


There’s a lot to be said off the record.


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 3:45pm
spring cleaning, finding old stuff, clothing pieces and old research.


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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 8:11pm
Going through loose pages- from our Japanese mook



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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 9:51pm
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Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 11:28pm
Fascinating!


Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 1:34am
Boss of the Road 1915.







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Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 6:19am
Love this last ad, and that Justrite ad speaks to me for obvious reasons.

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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 12:05am
I H... I overlooked that label, right up your alley.


Random union label stuff.


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Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 12:06am
Going through newspaper scales turned up a bunch of Stifel ads, mostly from the 1920s, the majority of which I’d not seen anyone reproduce online yet:

















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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 12:15am
Score- was it from those online newspapers I turned you on to?


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 12:39am
I started there but then ended up on the big newspaper site and that yielded this treasure trove. :D

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Posted By: BlueTrain
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 5:15am
According to an annual report from the West Virginia Depart of labor from around 1920, there were a number of woolen mills in operation in West Virginia, although I assume they were relatively small. At the time, woolen clothes were worn more than they are today and clothing generally was also heavier than that used today, probably because heavier cloth will last longer and indoor heating systems were not so efficient.
 
That was also about the time that child labor was being outlawed.


Posted By: LazyS
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 3:45pm
really enjoying all the illustrations in the old ads posted recently!


might do a silkscreen of this one too


Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 5:18pm
Looking forward to seeing the results!


Posted By: likeacannon
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 10:23pm
I would definitely get a tattoo of that farmer holding the fruit basket.


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 23 May 2020 at 7:40pm
Going through 1920s railroad magazine scans:







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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 24 May 2020 at 6:51pm
I H- Have you found any unusual stifel fabric patterns- in any of the ads?
Seems like it’s always the basic patterns?


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 24 May 2020 at 7:41pm
Sansome, nothing unusual so far; dot stripe is generally shown for outerwear are such as chore coats, overalls, hats and pants, and shirts are generally polka dot.

I did find this RPPC though and have ordered it so I’ll take my smartphone macro lens to it when it arrives:



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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 24 May 2020 at 11:12pm
Iron Horse- Nice photo, should be interesting!


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 25 May 2020 at 7:25pm
Yep, can't wait to get it!

In the meantime, found this 1920s Stifel ad with a print made just for the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad:






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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 25 May 2020 at 8:17pm
There we go, now that’s cool, bet there is more we don’t know about...I think this is one of those.
Nice find IH.


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 26 May 2020 at 4:59am
Thanks Sansome; apparently Stifel took on various custom prints like these for railroads. Here’s a salesman’s sample for one for the Erie Railroad and the corresponding wobble shank button:









And apparently the patent for one for the Santa Fe Railroad, but haven’t found a vintage example yet:



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Posted By: likeacannon
Date Posted: 26 May 2020 at 3:47pm
Love that Sante Fe Super Chief pattern!


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 10:46pm
Got the RPPC yesterday but the image is just a bit too small to make out the wabash/Stifel pattern, though it does look railroad to me:









This one sold in under a minute of me posting it on Instagram too!

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Posted By: Sansome
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 8:03am
Nice little pic Iron, I agree, has to be some sort of RR print.


Posted By: Iron Horse
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 6:07pm
Agreed Sansome! Will keep hunting for more.

In the meantime, found some more ad scans, perhaps I should make a Stifel/Wabash thread here too.











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Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 4:46pm
Blue Buckle ad, 1921


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Posted By: buler
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 7:27am
Miners overalls patent 1914


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