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A decent looking Romanian built option from Stussy, and the only branding is on the tongue. I'm not sure what the quality is like, but the price is low. 

Basically my perfect sneaker. Hender Scheme

slap some thick white laces on these bad boys and you might have something...MIGHT. it looks like they're made for postal carriers so i'm guess they'd be pretty comfortable...i'm getting a mid-80s reebok vibe from them though.

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and it's unclear if these next ones are from the above or from visivm but found this pic online and loved it:

I know some dudes will be bummed cause they're not made in USA, but I am really feeling these!!

http://www.dharmatrading.com/dyes/pre-reduced-indigo-crystals.html" rel="nofollow - Like this?

If so, thanks for the tip! I've been thinking of having a dyeing party at the cabin when it's done. :)

Is this the color that the first dip will turn into after it's that greeny-yellow? Or do I need to use a light blue rit instead? 

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USA! USA! USA!

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If they think that shifting maybe 5% of their line to US mfg is going to create "brand loyalty" or make me trust them, they've got another thing coming.  

But I also won't let that push me into boycotting, because let's be honest; if we avoid every product that is made well for the wrong reasons, we'd have depressingly few options left.  

Ethical manufacturing is important to me, and I will always be watching.  If they treat it like a trend, they will NOT have gained a loyal customer, but I will still have gained shoes made by US workers, and that means I'm the one that took advantage of them, not the other way around.

have any details been released about this?

I think it has everything to do with it when it's an iconic brand that was originally made in the USA.   

Just because you're an immigrant doesn't mean you're not American.   98% of all American's are immigrants from one time or another.

Why do you think Converse made in the USA command the prices they do?   It's because they were made in the USA.

It's the same with electronics.  I prefer a Sony made in Japan than one in China.   But my Ming Vase, I'll choose China every time.

As observed elsewhere, jeans made in Japan might equally, and most likely, be made by Chinese hand. Same so with electronics I'll wager.

Country of origin meaning anything of substance is an increasing myth. I'm pretty sure that many who buy into 'made in USA' prefer not to think that it might have been actually made by a Mexican labourer.

 

I just want to point out that 100% of Americans, Native Americans included, are immigrants. whether you came by boat, plane, or by foot over a land bridge, your ancestors didn't start out here.

Quality or workmanship is not necessarily any different in either product by virtue of where it's assembled, which seems little more than a patriotic notion that your own country is best.

 

That is the point. The immigrant concept should have no meaning.

 

It's idealistic, sure, but if we could all realize we are essentially all the same despite differences we perceive amongst each other we could avoid the incessant problems thathave plagued the US (and others) for so long. It's never going to happen, but it's something to keep in mind.

 

 

I was just giving the "been here for thousands of years" pass.   Sure everyone was immigrant at one time.   

And going by the African logic, since all humans originally came from Africa, then only in Africa could someone be not be called an immigrant.  

Now getting back to PF Flyers….

Probably not as much as other countries but definitely they have a presence. 

For me the quality of life of the workers is most important.  Slave labor and lethal working conditions are very real. 

Seriously though, I know that in many cases companies are choosing to move their manufacturing from countries like China (particularly the Eastern coastal provinces) back to the US due to increasing costs associated with wage rises, transport and other factors such as the relative strength of the currency.  For these businesses, consumer preference for ethically and/or domestically manufactured goods doesn't really feature as a major consideration.  It's more a reflection of an erosion in the cost advantages of manufacturing overseas.     

 

The Economist did an interesting article on this a while back which I might be able to dig up...

We have sweatshops here in the UK, just as we have employers willing to take on labour, cash in hand at significantly under statutory minimum wage, just as we have illegal immigrant labour too. Legislation doesn't protect these individuals as the whole operation by nature is avoiding the legislation.

That said, larger, recognised companies probably don't want the negative association on their doorstep and in any event have far more formal employment practice. Not that they necessarily pay any better.

For me, country of origin - Made in USA, Made in UK, whatever - is far more significant when it's associated more with small, cottage industry or owner operated firms than the large conglomerates and mass produced factory items.

I do recognise a significance though in the concept of an item that originates somewhere historically being made available again from that origin. But it's perhaps more of a 'romantic' notion for want of a better word than anything else..

Also - sorry, the term immigrant can be emotive in a unwelcome negative fashion, not my intention, and not meant in that respect.

The rather famous company Spingle Move in Hiroshima collaborated with a hanpu (sail cloth) brand Saikobo in the same prefecture. I think these look pretty good. Leather trim, kiln baked sole, leather laces. That tag though...

the thing is that value differs a lot and depends on so many parameters like size, condition, box, colour and most important finding a buyer who worships or needs exactly the ones you have as there's still enough old stock popping up in the states with every yard sale etc.

generally try a search via ebay and this'll give at least some direction 

here's a pic of one of the pairs i bought from that stock, rather easy to date (70's according to the insole-logo and timeline pictures above) thanks to the designs 

sadly most good vintage ones come from the states and i really have had serious issues with german customs when they open packages, see those old, damaged boxes and insist on "CTs are made in china, these have written US on them, so they are fakes and we will be keeping them in order to destroy them" 

thanks Mr. Black

I'm trying to put together a pair of Zissou shoes and need the right pair to start with.