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Heech...did your duck pullover that you sold have the label on the collar and a arcuate stitch? I saw the original at the vault a few years back- I forgot those details on the original....I think Mr Randal might have some pictures of the original?
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I do, but we have the 1873 items and the 1874 duck coat to cover first.
Send me those catalog pics of them, Sansome!
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Originally posted by Sansome Sansome wrote:

Heech...did your duck pullover that you sold have the label on the collar and a arcuate stitch? I saw the original at the vault a few years back- I forgot those details on the original....I think Mr Randal might have some pictures of the original?
 
Here's a pic of the collar -
 
 
Both pockets have the arcs -
 
 
 
 
 
 
IIRC the one pocket denim version of this popover (1880/1890?) has the label placed half on the collar, unlike this one - not sure which is correct without looking at pics of the originals.


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I thought I had seen a pic of the original 1873 duck hunting coat- this picture is lifted from A Continuous Lean, is in the Levi's archives, labeled "1870s Hunters Coat made of cotton 'duck'."
 If It wasn't labeled such, I would have thought it was a rigid LVC repro. All of the details of the original that you can see are exactly like the repro. Looks like practically deadstock.
 Eerily good repro.


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Next up is the 1874 duck hunting jacket. This is the first version, from LVC Japan, from around 2008:





















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LVCJ put that one out and then the following year this went up for auction on Ebay:







I don't remember all of the details, but IIRC the seller was from Japan, the jacket was identified as a Levi's jacket, and it sold to the United States. I suspect it went to Levi's, as LVC released a version of this in 2011. The rivet fronts on this jacket were blank, I believe the leather tag was illegible. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote mr randal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 12:27am
So far as I know Levi's hasn't spoken publicly about this jacket. 
This garment or one very like it was being sold in 1879- these images are from a 1879 catalog that Nonriveted and Sansome have images from.







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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote mr randal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 12:35am
Probably everyone has seen this picture. I recently noticed that the guy on the right seems to be wearing this jacket or a very similar one- look closely and you can see the rivet placement on a high front pocket and what seems to be a rivet glinting in the armpit in exactly the same place. I've worn this jacket a bit, and when worn it hangs just as this guys jacket does. There is part of a date written on the lower left of this image but it is cut of in the version I have and I can't make it out.






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sansome Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 10:06am
I think that all of the original duck jackets above^^^ are from the early 1890's...none of the jackets we have found have the label on the collar....My friends 1891 one pocket blouse has the label on the collar....our 1888 -89 one pocket blouse has its label on the bottom back center.
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With all due respect, I am going to disagree with Sansome in believing that the 1874 duck hunting jacket does date from the 1870s- it does look very much like the illustration in the 1879 catalog, and the leather tag could be on the inner neck rather than the outer waist because of the longer cut of this jacket.
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