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This story does have a silver lining- as I predicted- not much was found with the tractor......so it probably saved me -150 man hours, spread over many years- just to find almost nothing......Ill spend my time somewhere else.
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the duck triple pleat only had the collar button intact- it wasn't a Levi button- it was a round metal button, with a little jewel in the center......we found a 1875 button patent- this patent matched the button on the duck triple.....I don't think there is much chance of digging another......my competition got tipped off to this spot......then he took a tractor to it......it's pretty much why I don't post any pics of the places I go anymore......I've learned to keep a lid on things now
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Did the one and only duck repro have 'full' buttons?

lt may be easier for me to save up some funds, come out there with you and Russ, and dig up an original duck triple pleat!

( ..as long as it's in a well preserved size XL)
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See- it's not impossible to find original Levi buttons
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Originally posted by Sansome Sansome wrote:



Original  Levi button





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Yes please!
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Originally posted by setterman setterman wrote:

Remind me when hunting season is over (early December), I can take some pictures of my '22s. They're currently in service.  

Forgot about this.  Still want photos of the '22s?  
I got a rocket in my pocket and roll in my jeans
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote oomslokop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2015 at 6:21am
dug around rakuten briefly checking out all the type 2s available and so far the most stitch-for-stitch accurate repro belongs to... sugar cane! 

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/vari/item/sc-jk-sc11953a/?s-id=borderless_recommend_item_en

cheapest one too!


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Originally posted by Denimetc Denimetc wrote:

Gents, whats your take on this? I recently found a NOS LVC 507 jacket made in USA Jan 2000. Buttons are stamped 822 and I just learned that it was an independent sewing house in Idaho that was making at least 507xx jackets and 1878 jeans for LVC around 1999-2000. I absolutely love it and after warm soak the fit is perfect.

However, with a closer inspection I realised that the front pockets are not in the same level. There is 6 mm difference measured from the chest seam.

Here's a pre-soak picture


... and post
 
Another issue, and MY ACTUAL POINT: the placement of the pockets is also strange. Either the pockets are placed too high or the pleat stitchings are out of place. Because from what I've seen in the vintage jackets the top of the pocket should fall in the same level with the top pleat stitch.
Couple of examples below. First one snapped from David Little book and second one stolen from Wish you Were Here-blog (LVC vs. vintage).





Third issue is the second button from the top. In the vintage models it is placed right under the chest seam, whereas in my LVC (and above) it is way lower. So, something is not right: pockets, stitches or buttons - or all of them!?

In case you want to make comparisons. In my size 40 the pockets are: left one 77 mm and right 83 mm below the vertical chest seam. The top pleat stitch is 107 mm from the same seam. Middle of the second button hole is 50 mm from the seam. (Sorry, I am not very good with inches...)

I don't have a vintage one to measure, but if someone does it would be interesting to hear results.


I just got the latest issue of Men's File/Clutch magazine and the LVC ad on it reminded me of my old TypeII pocket placement rant.

In the first ad LVC shows beautiful vintage 1953 TypeII where pockets are lined with pleat stiches (as shown above).



Then the second ad claims that LVC is doing "stitch for stitch reproductions", but it is quite obvious that 1) pockets are placed lower than in the original and 2) the pleat stitches are nowhere near the pockets...



...so much for "stitch for stitch". And I am not even going to start with button placement.


Edited by Denimetc - 05 Mar 2015 at 1:44pm
Too much Denim - too little time...
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Thanks gents, knew I could rely on you both.
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