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    Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 7:18am
Sizing has always been an adventure with LVC's jeans, and LVC threads have always been dominated by sizing questions.  To attempt to cut down on questions, I'm starting a thread dedicated to just jean sizing.  I'll start with the current models, and how we believe the actual waist measurement compares to the tagged measurement.  If anyone has additional information to add, or corrections to make, please give them.    

Please remember, when purchasing raw LVC jeans, be sure to get the actual waist and inseam measurement from the seller.  If they're unwilling to provided them, move along, there's plenty of retailers willing to check that for you, including any of Levis flagship stores in the US.  

Expect the waist to shrink up to 2", but generally it can easily be stretched back to the pre-wash measurement and even 1" beyond if need be.  Expect the inseam to shrink 2 to 2 1/2" (this is down from the 3" of a couple years ago).  Generally, your best, historically correct fit (for STF models), will come from buying a jean that's actual waist measurement is 1" bigger than your actual waist size.         

1890 501XX  (info needed)

1920s 201 waist is true to tagged size.

1922 501XX waist is 3" bigger than tagged size.  

1933 501XX waist is 1" bigger than tagged size.

1937 501XX (info needed)

1944 S501XX waist is 1" bigger than tagged size.  Jeans made 1 to 3 years ago, will be 3" over tagged size.  

1947 501XX waist is true to tagged size, to 1" over.  

1954 501ZXX waist is true to tagged size, to 1" over.  

1955 501XX  waist is true to tagged size to 1" over. Jeans made 2 or 3 year ago, will be 3" over tagged size.

1966 501 waist is 1" bigger than tagged.

1967 505 (sanforized) waist is true to tagged size.

1978 501 waist is 1" bigger than tagged size.  


Edited by setterman - 07 Oct 2013 at 7:44am
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1915 - I have 2 pairs, both of which the waist measures 4" bigger than tagged size.

1937 (from a few years ago) - on both the waist is/was 2" bigger than tagged.
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StarGood idea setterman.
 
^Am away from my stash atm, but will contribute if I can.
My miniscule sizing-experience with Lvc runs with the stuff made in the old Levis factorys (555 and 554) so any help needed, shoot me a pm.
 
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Great concept thread. Perhaps also button code / guestimate year of manufacture would also be useful if people are posting their respective info. 

Anyway... my inconsequential input based on try on, but not purchase (Son of Stag, 2013):

I am generally a size 34, waist actally measures 35" to 36" depending how fat I am on the day.

LVC '44 size 33 button code 4170 - raw felt how I'd want it to fit post soak/wash, so I would say probably only +1" over tag. Felt smaller than raw tagged 33 FC1101 and FC0105. 

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Originally posted by pigswill pigswill wrote:

Great concept thread. Perhaps also button code / guestimate year of manufacture would also be useful if people are posting their respective info....
 
Button codes
 
1996-2002 = 555  (The factory on Valencia street, San fransisco)
 
2002-2003 = 554  (San Antonio made: Last US owned Levi's factory)
 
2003-2004 = briefly: '643M', also 'R' (Taylor Toggs)
 
2005-2006 = BLANK (although some US only stuff still carried the 'R' for a year)
 
2007 = 233M  ...?
 
2010 = 4170?
 
 
If helpful.  Setterman will know more.
 
 
Oh and the 1915, 1917 and 1927 models all measure 3" over tagged size( e.g: size 34 measure 37", size 36 measure 39".
 
 
 
 


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Didn't bother to add button codes because they're more confusing than the sizing (I have stuff from 2007 with 643 on the button Doc).

Current production can be "337", "R" (on my '47s made within the past two years) and "4420" (on the most recent batch of '78s).  337 has been in use at least the past two years. 
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I thought this thread would have had much more uptake than it has. Where is everyone? There's been numerous talk of 'recent' LVC purchase.  Slightly surprising given the LVC popularity on this forum. 
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Honestly, all I'm looking for is confirmation on the current 1890 and 1937, and that's enough info.  Would be a mess to try to compile sizing information for every model made by the different factories over the years.  Just looking to create a foundation for people who want to buy models that are currently in production.  You're looking to buy something older, you're on your own!    
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote erk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 7:22am
this is a good idea, but I don't know how much help this is actually going to offer since sizing tends to vary so much from season to season. my 1944s from this season were only 1" oversized. 
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Thanks erk.  It seems like they're moving everything to 1" over tagged (smart move).
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