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Originally posted by Maynard Fried-San Maynard Fried-San wrote:

This has been the best thread on here. I recently bought a pair of 503s from Yahoo auctions in size 32. I’ll post some pics and measurements. Watch this space...






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This has been the best thread on here. I recently bought a pair of 503s from Yahoo auctions in size 32. I’ll post some pics and measurements. Watch this space...
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They are a good fit on you Mr. R.
I've never seen or heard of those 504z's, they look alot better than the early 502/503b models of the early 90's.
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A fairly rare example of a LVCJ 504Z that surfed in in front of the Covid shipping shutdown wave.

These have the highest rise of any LVCJ model I've tried, a good bit of hip flare, and a straight leg.
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Glad to do it, Q.

Thanks Maynard, let me have the knee measurement and I will plug that data in.
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Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

LVCJ 2000-2009

The two s702XXs (33 & 37) disappear by 2000. The 50sXX jean continues for some time then also disappears, leaving the Japan original Vintage models as:

502XX
702XX
503BXX


Thank you for this very informative post, Mr. R. I really like the looks of those 702s!
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Measurements (BiG style) for a size 33 503 BSXX after a couple of washes and very little wear.

Waist: 33.25"
FR: 12.5"
BR: 15.5"
Thigh: 12.75"
Hem: 8.5"
Inseam: 33.75"

Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

^You're right. Maynard. I measured the pair i have (a size 36, laundered multiple times) and found a taper of 1" from the knee to hem.

I have:

W 17.75
Th 13
Kn 10
hem 9.2
F rise 12
r rise 17

I think this is a straighter leg than a '55?
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I think Levi’s Japan was established in 1965- it was a regional branch of Levi’s and oversaw shipping throughout the Far East and later domestic production of some lines. That branch was the first part of Levi’s, so far as I can see, to recognize and respond to the vintage boom of the ‘80s. That branch started the idea and production of Levi’s Vintage reproductions seemingly independently from Levi’s headquarters (though presumably with approval).
I suspect Levi’s headquarters really only got involved when they saw the potential profit in the idea. So LVCJ led the way, and LVC US capitalized on their work and philosophy, expanded it, ran with it, then crushed it in 2009, iirc it was cost cutting to facilitate stock buybacks.


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What purpose did Levis japan serve? Was it a subsidiary, was it a unique company that licensed the Levis name? Why were some (seasons? Models?) produced in the USA and some made in japan? Did they use cone?

I’m over dead stock, the prices are crazy. Right now I’m picking through the “washed once” (and hopefully not hemmed) for good deals.

I’ve pretty much given up on models that aren’t the 47s. Do you have any idea fit wise how LVC USA and LVCJ compare?
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rob- it all depends on your outlook.

 Are you dedicated to a particular LVC model and are curious about the difference? Try a 2000-2009 LVCJ of the same model in near new condition and see the differences (in japan LVC dead stock has soared in expected price, I wouldn’t pay asking for any of those, but if you are careful and patient you can find jeans in nearly new condition, sometimes unworn but detagged, for reasonable prices).

 If you want something different than LVC US, try one of LVCJs big three unique models- the 702, 503, or 502.

 If you want a piece of LVC history, the very early stuff would be the place to go, or you could look for a rarer model like their 50s Jean or one season numbers like their 551zxx or 1954 501z.


Hopefully we will talk eventually about the differences in manufacture for the various periods- the standard wisdom has always seemed to be that LVCJ has better construction and hardware, sometimes materials (patches can be of nicer leather), while US LVC often has more authentic detailing and, sometimes, more interesting denim, especially when something was specially woven for a particular model by Cone.
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