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Originally posted by Bob Dale Bob Dale wrote:

That front pleat makes me think of the guayabera shirts almost.

very cool, love the saddleman detail on the label.


Thanks Bob, looks like you would have done the same as me, if you saw this at the local thrift store.
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it's a lovely shirt. i'd have bagged it too. definitely 70s, that collar...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Bob Dale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2012 at 5:28pm
I would have crapped my pants upon seeing the saddleman on the label (thinking maybe it was a mid 50s 'denim family' piece of some kind) .  I always blaze through the labels on shirts until a desired or unfamiliar brand pops up.  Tends to make finding vintage easier, though Hanes and a few other brands have made some very vintage looking labels, as have the crappy mall brands like Hollister and Gap.

I found what I had assumed was a vintage jantzen or penney's towncraft ringer tee, tossed it into my cart trying not to show how stoked I was about my find, push it over to show the wife and she spots the tag sticking out like a sore thumb.

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It will be super great if someone with deep knowledge about jeans (for example Dr_Heech) provides all kind of illustrations/photos/explanations for Levis jeans/jackets/non-denim information before 1993 era including non-selvedge ... coz keep seeing 1983/84/87 etc. 501 jeans/type 3 jackets in ebay but can't really tell which one is real or fake ... there are a lot of information for selvedge jeans but not much information for non-selvedge before 1993 era ... thanks a lot and greatly appreciated if someone will share knowledge and we can learn here :)  ..
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Originally posted by sleepymrp sleepymrp wrote:

It will be super great if someone with deep knowledge about jeans (for example Dr_Heech) provides all kind of illustrations/photos/explanations for Levis jeans/jackets/non-denim information before 1993 era including non-selvedge ... coz keep seeing 1983/84/87 etc. 501 jeans/type 3 jackets in ebay but can't really tell which one is real or fake ... there are a lot of information for selvedge jeans but not much information for non-selvedge before 1993 era ... thanks a lot and greatly appreciated if someone will share knowledge and we can learn here :)  ..
 
Yes that would be super.  If I had the time and the resources to undertake such a task then it would be a wonderful thing indeed to behold.  But it's not going to happen.
 
Most of what I know (and I've probably forgotten half of it) was learned from handling original denim clothing 25 years ago.  I used to belong to sufu and bored everyone to death - reeling off stuff and showing pics from reference books ..etc. So trawl through the levi's threads over there and read through them.  It's a very large subject. 
 
My advice to start you off - try here:
 
 
 
 
 


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It took awhile, but I've finally forced my way through this new windows 8 morass and can post a few things I've saved up.  First is a 'didn't think it was still possible' thrifting of some nearly immaculate 501 redlines.  Aside from the back patch being inexplicably torn off, the only problem is the 44 waist (although it has shrunk to a nearly petite 40).
I guess husky folks got seven belt loops...
Is the dating this straightforward?  March '76?
These things are still so dark hairy, you might call 'em swarthy.
If I really overlap the fly, from the rear they look like an awesome pair of 1920s.  Maybe some alterations are in order...
 
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they look a good deal like US orange tabs from the 70s -- but Canada had orange tabs until the early 00s.

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I just ran into this ebay listing .. it said  70519-1122 with Redtag Big E .. is it a legit Levi? if so any thought of circa?

Also which one is the older model: having "WPL423" horizontally after "100% Cotton and Made in USA" and right above "Size" Vs. vertically after "Size" at the corner (as shown in attached ebay link)?

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Levis-70519-1122-Big-E-White-Denim-Jacket-Size-44-/271254414653?pt=Vintage_Men_s_Clothing&hash=item3f2805e53d&nma=true&si=EWf6s6tllly%252B%252FA8iVsJJYSTUz08%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557



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That pique jacket is/was legit.  I have a chart of the White/Californian Levis jackets label codes. 
I think the smaller label is around 1968, but here's a same code but larger label model from 66-67. 
 
 
WPL stands for the Wool Products Labeling registration number, issued as far back as 1939 based on the Wool Products Labeling act. 
Every textile company manufacturing US made goods is issued an RN or WPL number, and for Levi Strauss it is WPL 423.  Hope this helps?
 
 
 

 
 
 


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Random -- but I was kind of excited to discover today that Levi's once had a number of both distribution and manufacturing plants in Arkansas. 

I know it's unlikely but I have visions of some huge cache of late 70s and early 80s 501's dancing around in my head or at the very least estate sales with old paystubs/company info floating around.

A good friend from High School told me that for quite some time the sign was still up outside the plant in San Antonio  -- so I'm tempted to see if I can't drive past some of these plants.  One was located on , get this, 15000 Panatella Road.


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