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Originally posted by Dr_Heech Dr_Heech wrote:

Great story @denimsince65. If anyone epitomizes the Hotel California effect, you are the Major (off)fender




Cheers, man.


A couple of things helped me.


One, back in the mid 70's and 80's, I used to travel to the East Coast of America and Canada, buying and selling records. New York, Philly, Boston, Baltimore, Washington and Toronto (and occasionally, over to LA) - so finding good denim was easier than if I'd been stuck in the UK.


F'rinstance, the old style Type 3 (i.e - without the side pockets) lasted a good while longer in Canada than it did everywhere else, and old stock 501s and Lee Riders were easier to find up there.


There was a great store on Yonge Street in downtown Toronto, as I recall.


Second thing is that I am still the same basic shape as I was in my 20's, so I can still wear my old jackets. Sadly, waist has gone from 28 to 34, so all my old jeans have long gone....

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I’ll make this post as if I am telling a story, for I was taught as a child in my world that truth is a matter of the imagination and to never tell a story that is not interesting, so there is a hurricane in it, and a hurricane usually promises to be interesting.

It was a queer, sultry autumn, the autumn they guillotined Hamida Djandoubi, and the sun shone, having no alternative, on nothing new yet I didn’t know why I was sullenly sipping a beer on the Corso Vittorio Emanuele II although surely the knowledge that this was also a time of the fewest tropical storms in 2 years more than a decade was cause enough for the depression.

Even the unexpected intrusion of Gío, given that sobriquet before he built his sprawling empire amongst the meneghini, almost unpardonably late for lunch with his progenitors of whom ‘Don’ Ugo Armani answered only to his beloved Maria Raimondi, apologising again but not halting in his quest to understand why my jeans were unique to his eyes.

“Anche la cravatta ha un cuore” he heard me say. But the past is a foreign country, things were done differently there.

Now I exist only for Denimbro ...


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And you may find yourself
Living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself
In another part of the world
And you may find yourself
Behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house
With a beautiful wife
And you may ask yourself, well
How did I get here?
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Originally posted by Duke Duke wrote:

Originally posted by CSL CSL wrote:

OK. I’ll jump in. Let me preface this by stating that I’m English & came to the US in my early 20s.


Carl, shouldn’t ‘my’ be replaced with ‘the’?

Haha! Actually I came over on the Mayflower. After all, it did sail from Southampton.
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I'm still blown away by Denimsince65's reminiscence  about Army surplus A2 flying jackets (20 quid by mail-order!).

I recall buying a reissued version from a stall in Kensington Market circa 1986. It was 100 pounds & they painted a patch to my specifications. I still have it. It's pretty high quality really.
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Originally posted by CSL CSL wrote:

[COLOR=#ffffff]I'm still blown away by Denimsince65's reminiscence<span style=": rgb43, 43, 43;]  about Army surplus A2 flying jackets (20 quid by mail-order!).</span>[/COLOR]
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<span style=": rgb43, 43, 43;">I recall buying a reissued version from a stall in Kensington Market circa 1986. It was 100 pounds & they painted a patch to my specifications. I still have it. It's pretty high quality really.</span>


Hi CSL

A bit more detail:


My Dad used to get a weekly newspaper/magazine called "Reveille". I think he'd read it ever since WW2, and it always featured scantily clad girls and "scandalous" stories, which he liked. Almost like a tabloid version of "National Enquirer".


The extra bonus for me was the classified ads section always seemed to feature stuff that I didn't see elsewhere - and one regular one was for "ex army leather jackets", with a drawn image of an A2.

20 quid was a fair bit of cash back then, but a mate of mine got one which looked brilliant, so I took the plunge.The only thing wrong with them was the knits, which had lost their stretchiness.


Here's a pic taken at an all-nighter at the Twisted Wheel Club in Manchester in around 1968.

Dancing in an A2 jacket, 501s and leather driving gloves.....


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Originally posted by CSL CSL wrote:

I'm still blown away by Denimsince65's reminiscence  about Army surplus A2 flying jackets (20 quid by mail-order!).

I recall buying a reissued version from a stall in Kensington Market circa 1986. It was 100 pounds & they painted a patch to my specifications. I still have it. It's pretty high quality really.


I agree.  Denimsince65's story really brings things to life (although Duke's could work with the inclusion of a couple fire-breathing dragons commandeered by sulky blonde teenagers).

I remember visiting London in 1976 as a sulky teen and being unimpressed by the denim offerings.  There seemed to be lot of wide-leg ugliness and nothing like the cowboy cuts I was used to seeing back home in Canada. 

Never mind. At that age, I wore a lot of cotton gauze hippy stuff anyway.   London was replete with that kind of thing.  Embarrassed
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Originally posted by HP Sauce HP Sauce wrote:

I remember visiting London in 1976 as a sulky teen and being unimpressed by the denim offerings.  There seemed to be lot of wide-leg ugliness and nothing like the cowboy cuts I was used to seeing back home in Canada. 

Never mind. At that age, I wore a lot of cotton gauze hippy stuff anyway.   London was replete with that kind of thing.  Embarrassed



Hi HP


Did you visit the Biba store on Kensington High Street?


7 Storeys of Art-Deco craziness, and brilliant high fashion stuff for girls.

We used to go to the original store round the corner on Kensington Church Street (I remember bumping into Slade in there), but the big store was just phenomenal! Happy days!
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Ok then, maybe hurricanes aren’t all that interesting but it’s a true story, mostly.

I might never have spoken to Giorgio Armani, but I was in his hometown that summer with my friend Joe (Giuseppe) who was the best dressed guy I ever knew.

We grew up together in a small village, his father owned the ice cream shop, the best place ever to hang out. Especially when your own family never had much and I’d get free (sic) ice cream for helping sweep up or whatever.

Even as a small child I was obsessed with detail and design, my Lego models were not what you’d expect from a boy at my age - compromises in colour, shape or aesthetic weren’t acceptable in my mind.

Clothes weren’t important to me then or even until my late teens although I suppose I was quite fastidious in my appearance but only for the sake of being clean and tidy ... and probably colour coordinated. I remember that jeans were my favourite thing because they seemed to look ok wearing football tops and I felt quite cool with tees and sweats.

I did like clothes that had a specific purpose - I liked seeing workmen wearing dungarees (bib overalls) or donkey jackets, that type of thing ... even the white cotton jacket Joe’s dad wore behind the counter at the cafe.

All simple stuff really.

And that despite knowing and being around quite a few members of some well known (top of the pops even) punk bands and being immersed in that culture. Much as I enjoyed being with those guys, I was never in awe of them, they didn’t influence me nor did I even like how they dressed - I just saw that as attention seeking, trying too hard to make a statement. Even the music was just ok - half of them couldn’t even play their instruments any better than I could - but I liked some of it, the way I like bits of pretty much any other type of music for the reason I still don’t understand except that I connect.

But then Joe turned up one day wearing a black wool slim double breasted suit with a narrow collar and the trousers finished just above the ankle in a turn-up - holy fuck, I’d never seen anything like that! Who knows, it was maybe the first Comme des Garçons suit in the UK but it was outrageously simple and simply outrageous.

The fire was lit - that was the clothes I wanted to wear.

I was at the age then where I was looking to work and working meant I could buy these clothes, but you had to travel to get them - not just to Edinburgh and Glasgow, but down into Englandshire and further.

There were so many great designers to be discovered apart from CDG ... Yohji Yamamoto, the Antwerp 6, Vivienne Westwood. Their designs and clothes were amazing, but I only ever liked the plain styles - albeit they may not have been simple.

The best at that were always the Japanese designers, and it made me inquisitive about other things Japanese - the design approach and the culture.

Fortunately (and unfortunately) my work meant travel - sometimes too much travel - but some of that travel led to Tokyo ... more wow!

Coincidentally, this was a time that I now believe was the root of where I am now - the move away from wearing every colour and style of black to something I could wear all day, every day. Instead or reinterpreting and reinventing historical clothes, the clothes that had functional purpose, people were replicating them in obsessional detail.

I’d made a few acquaintances in Japan, a couple of which were young enough to get me more detail and information, but it took many years for me to phase out of Yamamoto/Miyake/Kawabuko et al into a place closer to now.

The internet boom, broadband and all that high tech malarkey eventually accelerated the process and now I could feed my appetite for knowledge more quickly, more efficiently.

I started reading different forums to see what else I could discover but too much of what I read was written by folk who understood more than they knew - I think, by and large, that’s what make Denimbro a little bit different.
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Great memories DS65 - when I was a young lad Reveille was the periodical of choice
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