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Sansome
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Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 12:10am |
Pretend this didn't have a label- then ask me back in 2009- Who made this? My answer would have been Boss of the Road (Neuatdater Bro's) Clearly by the early to mid 1880's- This was Levi's main style of pant that competed with them. We have- for lack of a better word, referred to this as a dart stitch. 4 times out of 10- you will see that a miner doesn't like any back pockets, probably some old school guy- doesn't like sitting on rocks in his back pockets? |
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Almost every company that we have seen, making this style of dart stitch pant- uses this style cinch strap configuration. We have searched California trade marks-we searched federal trademarks. So far- we have been unable to put a name to the company making these pants. The letters JB are woven in the middle of the horse shoe. Replacement fly button. This pant dates some time before 1883- It has hand sewn button holes.
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Most Likely- XX Amoskeag denim, and there's a good chance it's long staple cotton. Most companies like this one, uses some sort of felled seam on the yoke. Levi might be the only company that uses an open yoke seam up until 1893-94
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Boss of the Road- first label Pants should date to the late 1882-84 |
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Mike, I found some reference to a Good Luck Clothing company in What Cheer, Iowa. Seems to have been around in the late 1800s, sold out in 1901. What Cheer was a coal mining town. There was also a Good Luck Shoe and Clothing Co in Butte, Montana. But from the look of their ads they were more shoes and formal clothing.
Cheers, B
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Thx buler- great to have you on the case. Most of the time, but not always, if these companies are based in NY or SF they will have NY & SF on the label. It made us think when we found them, this might be a pant from either of these states. Still unsure what makes these pants patented? So it looks like we should do a trademark search in Iowa, this might shed a little light on the JB in the horseshoe? |
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Thought i should post this here- its the first time i noticed Boston Mass at the top of the billhead? |
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Maybe that's a J and W (not JB) in the horseshoe. Could stand for Joseph Whitman who is listed as running the firm of Coburn & Whitman.
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I like that explanation- but I can’t make out a W- in the two letters in the middle of the horseshoe- what looks like a B, connects on both sides. |
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Question for you buler- if you trademark in one state, can another company take out the same wording in another state?
We would be talking late 1870’s - early 1880’s |
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