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Great interview! 
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Very interesting, thanks. Alameda is a lovely place.
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A very inspiring and insightful interview.  Tyvek may not be used much in fashion (although I remember when they used to give printed jackets away as promos because they could fold them up into tiny biscuits, and fit a hundred of 'em in a small box) but anyone who does spray painting (automotive, industrial, etc) wears a Tyvek moon suit.
 
As for the patterns. Likely scenario:  Suited gopher/unpaid intern says to low/mid-level corporate functionary "Hey boss, we got the move to the swank new digs underway, but there's all this cardboard in the factory that the surplus auctioneers don't want.  I think they're patterns or something."  Says the functionary "Dump 'em!  What, I gotta make all the decisions around here?"
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amazing work
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Pigswill, your timing is correct on the factory. There were other us plants making Levi's product still when it shut down, but not long after essentially all Levi's production was offshored except for LVC rigid denim and some specialty items for Levi's upper ranger, all of which are manufactured in la or sf.
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Even Taylor Togs shut its doors here in NC after producing Rag + Bone and LVC for a few years.  
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Great questions and an interesting read mr Randal. Thanks!
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Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

Pigswill, your timing is correct on the factory. There were other us plants making Levi's product still when it shut down, but not long after essentially all Levi's production was offshored except for LVC rigid denim and some specialty items for Levi's upper ranger, all of which are manufactured in la or sf.

Thanks mr randal, and yes I was pretty much only considering the denim repro which I think you knew I was alluding to.. 

Still seems so short sighted to disgard those precious patterns if the related models were still in actual production, I mean at the end of the day the outsourced factories would still need them to maintain production. Such a loss..! It fascinates me actually, it makes me wonder whether and how the designs/production runs may have varied as a result of the loss of those patterns. 

I'm not sure, but at the time of Valencia closure, had LVC released all of their range e.g 1890 through to I think 1966? (presumably at that point though not the 1978?)

Again, I welcome correction... I really am interested in this.



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Originally posted by pigswill pigswill wrote:

Originally posted by mr randal mr randal wrote:

Pigswill, your timing is correct on the factory. There were other us plants making Levi's product still when it shut down, but not long after essentially all Levi's production was offshored except for LVC rigid denim and some specialty items for Levi's upper ranger, all of which are manufactured in la or sf.

Thanks mr randal, and yes I was pretty much only considering the denim repro which think you knew I was alluding to.. 

Still seems so short sighted to disgard those precious patterns if they were still in actual production, I mean at the end of the day the outsourced factories would still need them to maintain production. Such a loss..! It fascinates me actually, it makes me wonder whether and how the designs/production runs may have varied as a loss of those patterns. 

I'm not sure, but at the time of Valencia closure, had LVC released all of their range e.g 1890 through to I think 1966? (presumably at that point though not the 1978?)

Again, I welcome correction... I really am interested in this.

 
From first hand experience, there's a definite shift in 'attention to detail' when production was moved around 2002.  Even the Levi's owned San Antonio stuff was not up to previous standards IMHO.  Pocket shapes wrong, rivet-fluff showing, dodgy arcs, rivets falling off etc ..etc.  I wonder if this is the time those patterns were disposed of; seems likey?
 
I liked the original line up ('96-99) when the booklets and other advertising stated that the workers who were reproducing these raw denim pieces were Levi's workers who cut their teeth in the '40s, 50s and 60s.  So they were supposedly skilled workers brought back/kept on, from years ago when quality was a gradually learned craft. 
The original model line up is in the Lvc catalogues thread: http://www.denimbro.com/lvc-catalogs_topic13.html
 
  


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Thanks Dr Heech.
I'll revisit the other thread and read up. 

Interesting you mention 'rivet fluff' as a quality detractor, assuming that is the tuft, funny as it's one of the things that in some cases is almost overly stylised by the Japanese brands. 


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