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Originally posted by Double 0 Soul Double 0 Soul wrote:

Originally posted by apap apap wrote:

Received these a couple days ago from Pancho and Lefty.  Clinch hand-dyed black horse butt engineer boots on the CN last.

IMG_8956 by ap ap, on Flickr



^These are beauties! i bet your over the moon. Ive got tiny scars in all of my HH from FW,s to Buco or of course it could just be a tooling mark that will rub out.
Im glad the sizing worked out, would you go with a 10 in the CN again?
 
They're fantastic.  I'm only on my second day of wearing them, and they are really comfortable.  As of now, I would say yes I'd go with the Clinch size 10 (9 US) again.  
 
There is a small defect shown in the photo visible in direct sunlight.  Indoors this morning I had trouble finding it.    It's a non issue currently, and will be eclipsed by wear shortly.  It's nothing. 
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Originally posted by ShootThePier ShootThePier wrote:

While those flaws are completely superficial, they are too much to allow my eyes to see how good or bad the stitching might be.
In fact, if I saw that, I'd be left looking for all the other flaws. Even with a replacement, I'd be paranoid. I'm sure some customers would be willing to ignore small problems at inconsequential areas, but I'm willing to spend this kind of money so I don't have to worry about stuff like that.
Yup, I know I am splitting hairs here. These are real good boots still. I just don't feel like my pair is worth the price I paid for them ($1000). It's a bit rough around the edges and doesn't have that craftsman ship polish I've seen of other pairs in here. 

Originally posted by Double 0 Soul Double 0 Soul wrote:

This is really rough workmanship!
You say you paid $1000 bucks? did you buy them direct from Brass? because if you see my pair of overdyed Clinch in the op there is no sign whatsoever of overspill onto the edges of the leather. In my case the dye must have been applied prior to construction (before the pattern was cut) because if the dye would have been applied after it would have also dyed the stitching.

Whereas this pair^ somebody has clearly applied the dye after construction and not particularly well.

Yup, I emailed BRASS asking what boots he had in stock and this was one of them. I couldn't see any of these flaws in the pictures that were sent to me and it was not mentioned if they were used. They looked brand new in the pictures. 


Should I email them? I don't want to be rude since I am from a different culture than where these boots are made and I don't know what is socially acceptable business wise when it comes to stuff like this. I'd just like to get to the bottom of why this pair is rough around the edges and the ones I've seen in here aren't. 
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Also just to clarify on the leather. The leather is baby calf. I believe that explains their weight so I am withdrawing my criticism of them being light. 
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Mark,
I think it is very courteous of you to ask about cultural differences before you email. Tell them in the email that you want to respect their business, but at the same time the product you received is not the product that was in the pictures you initially received.
Hopefully they're horrified Product like that ever left their shop.
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I would. Be respectful obviously, but I maintain that that is not up to the standards of their boots that I have seen or owned myself. If either of my custom pairs end up like that I will not be happy.

Well at least the leather is explained haha.
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I'm curious to see a picture of the whole boots. 


Beautiful pair Apap.
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Originally posted by Americana Mark Americana Mark wrote:

Also just to clarify on the leather. The leather is baby calf. I believe that explains their weight so I am withdrawing my criticism of them being light. 


I assumed they were horse because the leather doesn't look particularly thick but if they are 'soft' baby calf that would explain the premature collapse in the shaft.

Personally Mark i wouldn't get into the 'why's and why nots' it'll just complicate the matter 'your not happy with them, they are not what you were expecting based on the photographs provided' either return the boots and ask to be put on the waiting list for a pair that look like apap's or ask for a refund, pay to send them back with full tracking and insurance.

If you ask in the small Q,s thread im sure a Japanese speaker will be able to offer better advise regarding terminology and etiquette than i could provide.

You sound like a polite and reasonable fellow and so are they so there should be a happy outcome here. Good luck! keep us tuned

as smoothsailor says, can we see some more images, sole included please?
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