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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (3) Thanks(3)   Quote Maynard Fried-San Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 2:41pm
Hey ran, chin up - you got a PhD in Denimology!
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^^Agree with Matt and Bob.
Ran, dont know how relevant this is to your situation, but I (like Rivet) went back to college after many various unskilled jobs and finally got a degree (fine art).  But never used it and instead got into the industry I worked in (temping) to fund my degree (nursing/support-work).  After ten years, got fed up so self-funded some Drystone-walling courses whilst honing my work shifts around them.  The recession hit 6 months after qualifying so just went for the first job offered (green-keeping).  I've done many other odd jobs both in the UK and spent years working abroad doing various seasonal work after buying a one-way ticket somewhere with the determination to fund-as-I-go travel.  It can be done.
Self-belief and graft and the willingness to push yourself a little further than the next guy are the things that will get you there.  What have you got to lose? Smile 
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The best thing to do is to just do it.  So many people talk of doing stuff but never actually do it.  

If you can't go full time then take a few night classes.   It will take longer, but before you know it you're done.  

There is a lot of financial aid out there if you really look.   I'm still paying off my student loan and probably will till I'm 60.   




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Thanks Andie, appreciate it. :) Not gonna let this get me!
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Ranon, we all hit bumps when everything seems so uncertain.  Like Bob says, try something that will at least pay some bills. Your degree is in comms? Try starting a blog, hone your writing, learn how to promote it, get noticed. Things will start to happen, you will see!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote ranonranonarat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 10:15am
thanks for the encouragement and advice guys. means a lot to me in this situation im in right now.

i would really love to take up a proper degree but education is crazy expensive without a grant. eventually i will get down to doing it either part-time while working concurrently or to quit a job and do it full time (easier said than done). my options now are pretty much limited to either taking up a loan for a couple of years to fund further education or work a couple of years to see what i really want to do down the line, with me being more partial to the latter. the diploma i have now is somewhat similar to a college degree but to climb the corporate ladder, most companies MNC's or established local firms prefer those with bachelors. in addition, it seems to be getting and more expensive to live in singapore with the cost of housing at an all time high.

having said that, i appreciate all advice given by all you folks here. might decide to move out of this hole i am in one day and maybe seek greener pastures elsewhere but i am pretty clear that i need to work on/fulfil my short-term objectives before anything else. thanks for hearing me out guys.
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At 25 I went back to college after working several years in the unskilled job market. I have a decent job now, but things are still rough even with a college degree. My advice is to go back to school and get some advanced training. Either a college degree or certified in a skilled trade (plumbers never run out of work). This is the 4th recession I've lived through in my lifetime (43 y/o) and I live in one of the toughest job markets (Detroit). I've looked for something better but they are offering less pay and want ridiculous education and experience levels. I don't think some of these employers are being realistic. 
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Ran, I am only 26 so my advice should be taken with several grains of salt... but get out there and cut your teeth, pay your dues. Take a job that you wouldn't expect yourself to do for 'work experience' and look for other work.  I don't know how many of my friends took temp work, and surfed job sites WHILE THEY WERE WORKING at those BS temp jobs and landed jobs. 

Also, get that piece of paper. It's the difference between a job and a career.

A girl I know got a degree in Native American Studies, she got a job in HR for target and makes 45k a year with 3 weeks paid vacation, a 401k with matched contributions up to 11% of her annual income, and on and on and on.

Just don't settle, and if you can get back to school as soon as possible. The longer you stay out the harder it is to get back.  I graduated high-school in 2004, I am still 'working on college' at least that is what I tell concerned family and friends.

Life only gets harder with out a degree.

I don't know if there are trade schools out your way, but that's where I am headed once the wife and I have moved back to Oklahoma. People always need plumbing, electricity, et cetera.

If you can't find a career, find work ... sometimes the career finds you.




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being 25 and without a university degree/rich work experience sure sucks. been trying to find a job in this economic climate now. everyday im sending out resumes and looking at job listings but they are always either looking for highly qualified individuals or those with a lot of work experience. doesn't help that my diploma (mass communication) isn't really relevant in my country.

how did you guys feel about life at 25?
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^^^

It is true, it certainly sets me and some of my co-workers apart. But being sat apart has found us placed 'in charge' of him on a number of projects. Telling him to pick up any loose trash around our area is about the only thing you don't have to hold his hand to ensure he does correctly and in a timely fashion. Should the boss come back and everyone has accomplished their task and he hasn't even started his; We all still look 'good', but his inability to perform is perceived as our inability to lead. It's kind of a catch 22, it's only as good as we make it.  We are doing a re-model at a sister store and hopefully (knock on wood) he won't be returning to our team in the coming week.
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