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I thought I might throw out this machine question.  I found an Industrial Singer 241-11 and 241-12 on craigslist for $95 each.  I've checked out the specs and have downloaded the manual.  They are industrial light to medium weight and a medium to medium heavy weight machines, respectively.  They are a bit of a drive away but not so bad for the price.  Any thoughts from you all out there?  I am hoping to amp up my skills and speed by switching over to industrial machines.  I will be making pretty much the whole range of clothing that we post here.  Work shirts, pants, jackets, light leather work.  If you can register an opinion I would be greatful.   
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HH, that thing is a beautiful monster!  Looks like someone grafted a sewing machine onto a Muncie 4-speed.  I'm not familiar with that model.  What's its specialty?
 
Littledog, there seems to be a lot of internet chatter about folks coming up with those machines and wanting to dump 'em cause they're not worth anything (probably because they don't embroider Disney characters Wacko.  I would think that if you are doing something that just needs a single needle lock stitch, you'd be hard pressed to find something better out there.  There's a ton of them still around because they just won't die.  I think there's no reverse though, so you've got to consider thread ends.
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Littledog,  either machine would work fine for just about any normal sewing you're planning.  I personally don't like the self-oiling machines as I like to be adding oil to mine through the little holes all over.  But the price is fine.  You can find them cheaper like 50-75 if you really look around, but a bird in the hand... get one as you really don't need both and when you find something better, upgrade.  Go with the 12 model if you have a chance as it's the most heavy duty.

Joseph.. that is the Singer 99W.  Keyhole machine (the keyholes in your jeans for buttons)  It takes two people to pick it up.   It's the largest in volume machine I own.   They are super rare as most places dumped them when the newer keyhole machines came out.   I still have to mount it to a table add the motor, "gear unit"  and then figure out how the thing works...
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Thanks you guys for the input.  Good things to think about.  Congrats on the keyhole HH.  I am a little green with envy.  But baby steps.  Joseph, thanks for the headsup on the no reverse.  Not sure if that is a deal-breaker.  I will have to think hard.  I was planning on getting the 12 because it is heavier duty.  I will do some searching around before I jump in.  As I said it is a bit of drive away.  I wont make the drive unless I am confident I will come home with the machine.  Thanks again.  I let you know what I figure out.  I may be bugging you further in the near future.  Cheers. 

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I've never seen the Singer Keyhole, only the Reese (101s?).  I hope you get 'er hummin'.  ROY convinced me to try hand stitched button holes for awhile, and hopefully later this winter I may even have time to knock some out.  But for me I still hanker hard for a feed off the arm.  I've almost but not quite gotten a few.  Union Special, Singer, Rimoldi, but some snag always comes up, and I can't afford to just pay for a sure thing.
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Someday I know this sewing machine bug is going to get me, and my wallet lives in fear.

Anyone have any thoughts on this Sailrite machine?


I would probably not be making jeans, so I don't need any fancy stitches, but I do want power and reliability.
I make things out of leather.
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It seems expensive for what it does.  Do you need it to be portable?  You can buy a used walking foot Juki for probably 500 bucks that would sew circle's around this.  Not many people use a zig-zag stitch, that would be useless for me.

A walking foot machine is going to be powerful enough for anything that comes your way.  They are made to stitch heavy leather in multiple layers.  Denim is usually done w/ no walking foot.  I stitch 2-3 gauge latigo on mine like it's butter.

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That's fair, though it seems like it can be gotten for about $700, which is a bit less than list price but still a lot more than a vintage singer.  The zigzag seems nice for bar tacks, which is the only thing I really want aside from nice straight stitching.

Portable is a big plus as my work space is already taking over my home, and any machine sewn cloth projects are going to be a hobby (at first at least), so it would be nice to be able to put it away.

I've been considering a 15-91 as the cheaper alternative, they seem to be well liked.


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I make things out of leather.
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the 15-91 is THE workhorse.   They're cheap (100 or less if lucky) and do everything.   I personally use the 201-2 as my domestic for small jobs as it's just like the 15-91 but drop in bobbin which I like.  It can tackle 8 layers of 12 oz denim with a light tough and help but it gets through it.  

If you're diligent you will find walking foot industrials (singer 111w's) from 75-300 on tables with motors...
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Just got this last night...  Looks to have been sitting for a while, no rust, just age...  really looking forward to figuring this one out and using it!
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